Gavan Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: I am more of a Poole fan than you will ever be. Following speedway updates doesn’t constitute being a Poole fan. Where were you at Poole this year? I was at every meeting except when I was on holiday. Didn’t see you at Ipswich either. I am not a fan of lower league racing. The premier league is bad enough as it is. I don’t want to pay to watch wobblers in the PL. I prefer watching the best riders. But at least I watch the riders live rather than sit on updates. Your a glory hunter Team is winning and you can come on here an be all high and mighty......Poole get knocked out by the leagues weakest team and you throw your dummy out. So what if you go every week!!!! I hope the Poole promotion read your crap and are glad that if they do drop down you wont go............. And your not a fan of lower league racing ...............wobblers!!........well i hate to tell you this......Ipswich had 6 riders who ride in the lower league and those wobblers smashed your team in the second leg because you had prima donnas like Kurtz and Holder being shown up............................so glad we had wobblers rather than Aussie tarts Poole have 4 riders who ride top league only.....Ipswich 1....Swindon 3 and Wolves 2.........perhaps you need to sign a few more of those lower league wobblers ...you might actually win something!! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gavan said: Your a glory hunter Team is winning and you can come on here an be all high and mighty......Poole get knocked out by the leagues weakest team and you throw your dummy out. So what if you go every week!!!! I hope the Poole promotion read your crap and are glad that if they do drop down you wont go............. And your not a fan of lower league racing ...............wobblers!!........well i hate to tell you this......Ipswich had 6 riders who ride in the lower league and those wobblers smashed your team in the second leg because you had prima donnas like Kurtz and Holder being shown up............................so glad we had wobblers rather than Aussie tarts Poole have 4 riders who ride top league only.....Ipswich 1....Swindon 3 and Wolves 2.........perhaps you need to sign a few more of those lower league wobblers ...you might actually win something!! Purrlleeze give it a rest Gavan. BTW you haven't yet answered my question from yesterday!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Purrlleeze give it a rest Gavan. BTW you haven't yet answered my question from yesterday!!? No i wont give it a rest as far as he is concerned the man is a complete troll .........the good news is that he is getting it from all sides on the Wolves thread Ive no idea what Ipswich pay for rent and how much we get through sponsorship so i cant answer. All i know is that if we had had all the success Poole have had and all the tv money then if our main sponsor left id want to know where all that income had gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chris4gillian Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I am more of a Poole fan than you will ever be. Following speedway updates doesn’t constitute being a Poole fan. Where were you at Poole this year? I was at every meeting except when I was on holiday. Didn’t see you at Ipswich either. I am not a fan of lower league racing. The premier league is bad enough as it is. I don’t want to pay to watch wobblers in the PL. I prefer watching the best riders. But at least I watch the riders live rather than sit on updates. You haven't got a clue who I am so you will never know when/if I attend. I have been going to Poole regularly since the mid 70's and have always remained loyal to them. IF Poole dropped down to the Championship I will continue to attend and support them. That's what a TRUE fan/supporter does! p.s. FYI - We're currently in the PL (Premier League) DOH!! Edited October 10, 2019 by chris4gillian 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 I have supported Poole since the 60's, and I would go on supporting them if they dropped down, to my mind if Matt Ford does drop down a league it makes a great deal of sense in this financial climate, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 I guess it Poole were to drop down shovlar won't be on here as he has no interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I am more of a Poole fan than you will ever be. Following speedway updates doesn’t constitute being a Poole fan. Where were you at Poole this year? I was at every meeting except when I was on holiday. Didn’t see you at Ipswich either. I am not a fan of lower league racing. The premier league is bad enough as it is. I don’t want to pay to watch wobblers in the PL. I prefer watching the best riders. But at least I watch the riders live rather than sit on updates. Honestly What do you think you are watching now? You have a PL/CL (Championship Team) in all but name now; The likes of Glasgow and Leicester could give this Poole Team a good run for there money for sure and if this team was to drop down they would not be a "shoe in" for to win anything. What a crass comment... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Steve why don't you be honest and say the following. I am a Poole fan only when it suits me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mediman Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 My company Medicare sponsors Poole not for any main reward but we love the sport and I go back many years working with the Knott family. it must be hard trying to balance books in a sport that has so much potential but continues to shoot itself in the foot. i have posted before that I have asked for fans involvement and to listen to some really good suggestions but the bspa turn a blind eye and work in their own universe of make believe. i could not run my business like they run our beloved sport. With a tv deal in place the powers that be should look to bring in more teams perhaps look at 6 man teams sort out the guest and rider replacement issues to allow for fairer racing and start marketing the product. Alas this won’t happen and each promotion will want to look after their asset which is understandable but we really need some joined up thinking. as for Poole next season who knows II don’t blame Matt if he decides to drop leagues or even quit he has done his best for Poole not everyone’s cup of tea but at least he has provided us with years of entertainment and his work with us has always been top draw. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly What do you think you are watching now? You have a PL/CL (Championship Team) in all but name now; The likes of Glasgow and Leicester could give this Poole Team a good run for there money for sure and if this team was to drop down they would not be a "shoe in" for to win anything. What a crass comment... Regards THJ Honestly? Who would Bickley/Bailey/Jensen x2 beat often enough in the Poole side to give them a run for their money? The same applies to Leicester, although they might have a slightly better chance. The gap is smaller now than it was but the top 4 in the EL would beat any PL side. Their top 5s are essentially all PL number ones, if not more. FWIW, even though I disagree, I can see Shovlar's point. It's like a Premiership side dropping to league one and then expecting all their fans to show up - being a "die hard" isn't enough for some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, JCookie said: Honestly? Who would Bickley/Bailey/Jensen x2 beat often enough in the Poole side to give them a run for their money? The same applies to Leicester, although they might have a slightly better chance. The gap is smaller now than it was but the top 4 in the EL would beat any PL side. Their top 5s are essentially all PL number ones, if not more. FWIW, even though I disagree, I can see Shovlar's point. It's like a Premiership side dropping to league one and then expecting all their fans to show up - being a "die hard" isn't enough for some. While I agree with your general point I can name seven Poole riders that Rasmus Jensen could beat on a regular basis. After all Rasmus would be number one in the Poole averages if he were in their team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, arnieg said: While I agree with your general point I can name seven Poole riders that Rasmus Jensen could beat on a regular basis. After all Rasmus would be number one in the Poole averages if he were in their team Of course, my mistake, got my Andersens and Jensens mixed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, noggin said: I guess it Poole were to drop down shovlar won't be on here as he has no interest. not so sure,last nights semi was nothing to do with poole but it didnt stop him trolling the wolves v swindon thread continously all evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, JCookie said: Honestly? Who would Bickley/Bailey/Jensen x2 beat often enough in the Poole side to give them a run for their money? The same applies to Leicester, although they might have a slightly better chance. The gap is smaller now than it was but the top 4 in the EL would beat any PL side. Their top 5s are essentially all PL number ones, if not more. FWIW, even though I disagree, I can see Shovlar's point. It's like a Premiership side dropping to league one and then expecting all their fans to show up - being a "die hard" isn't enough for some. Honestly I do think that Glasgow and Leicester at home would give that Poole side a good run for their money, in fact I could fancy my lot at Newcastle giving them a good go at Brough Park and they were 2nd Bottom in the Wobblers PL/CL 2nd Tier this year... Gone are the days of Ward, Holder and many other of the top riders who were someting special, this current bunch are what you said possibly 1s or 5s in the current 2nd Tier but they ain't GP riders that's for sure... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, poole keith said: not so sure,last nights semi was nothing to do with poole but it didnt stop him trolling the wolves v swindon thread continously all evening. The trollmeister general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 This argument/debate is totally pointless, realistically we won't drop down. Even if Matt wanted to, the Champ promoters have to accept you, do they not? Remember when Eastbourne wanted to drop down but weren't accepted and had to ride NL before being able to move up to Champ level. I don't see it happening. More likely to try and go back to Weds nights tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersub Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Mediman said: My company Medicare sponsors Poole not for any main reward but we love the sport and I go back many years working with the Knott family. it must be hard trying to balance books in a sport that has so much potential but continues to shoot itself in the foot. i have posted before that I have asked for fans involvement and to listen to some really good suggestions but the bspa turn a blind eye and work in their own universe of make believe. i could not run my business like they run our beloved sport. With a tv deal in place the powers that be should look to bring in more teams perhaps look at 6 man teams sort out the guest and rider replacement issues to allow for fairer racing and start marketing the product. Alas this won’t happen and each promotion will want to look after their asset which is understandable but we really need some joined up thinking. as for Poole next season who knows II don’t blame Matt if he decides to drop leagues or even quit he has done his best for Poole not everyone’s cup of tea but at least he has provided us with years of entertainment and his work with us has always been top draw. 100% agree with you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly I do think that Glasgow and Leicester at home would give that Poole side a good run for their money, in fact I could fancy my lot at Newcastle giving them a good go at Brough Park and they were 2nd Bottom in the Wobblers PL/CL 2nd Tier this year... Gone are the days of Ward, Holder and many other of the top riders who were someting special, this current bunch are what you said possibly 1s or 5s in the current 2nd Tier but they ain't GP riders that's for sure... Regards THJ I don't think you'd need peak Holder or Ward, or even any GP riders. Grajczonek, Kurtz and Holder have been PL number ones, Klindt/Covatti are extremely good second/third heatleaders and even Wells would clean up at reserve. I don't think any PL side could beat Poole and I would confidently say Newcastle would have 0 chance - they can't even beat most PL sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 A reminder of the last official fixture between Championship and Premier League teams http://www.sheffield-speedway.com/news.php?extend.2439 Sheffield 32 Leicester 58. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, JCookie said: I don't think you'd need peak Holder or Ward, or even any GP riders. Grajczonek, Kurtz and Holder have been PL number ones, Klindt/Covatti are extremely good second/third heatleaders and even Wells would clean up at reserve. I don't think any PL side could beat Poole and I would confidently say Newcastle would have 0 chance - they can't even beat most PL sides. A rehashed version every year seems to happen by some saying that 2nd tier teams can beat top tier teams. I laugh every time. All anyone has to do is check the results when that happens and rarely does a 2nd tier come out winners. By any definition the top tier is the stronger league, and whilst its at its weakest ever form it remains to strong to be threatened by a 2nd tier team. And for someone to suggest that Newcastle could beat a top level tier made me sit down due to severe discomfort thru laughing so much. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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