semion Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Surely the true Poole fans will be happy to hand over Premier League admission for Championship Speedway. After all they will want see a successful team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 4:52 PM, Buttons said: I reckon Poole will stay up and run on Wednesdays If they do that they have got to let other teams race on whatever night they want .what's good for one is the same for others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: I am certain Matt Ford has done the figures .Our drop to the championship will be confirmed this week. Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Booey boy said: Good Oh so glad your pleased, made my day!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: As I had said before, i'll believe when it happens. If you do drop down , I can't see how it will make much difference, if any myself. Ford said it's 25% cheaper running CL. If you loose 200 fans a meeting, that's £3,000 a meeting at £15 each. Entry prices will go down. 1000 fans at £1 each, is another £1,000 a meeting. Will you attract the same sponsor money, not being on TV ? With the new TV deal, you will loose a chunk of money there as well. I know Ford knows his stuff, but I think the 25% might be swallowed up if the above is anywhere near the mark ? Maybe just my way of thinking is off?. Wont be long now and we will no for sure Mast admit I am also struggling how this alleged 25% saving will make such a difference. Maybe there are other factors involved. Such as perhaps he feels that a top 3 out of either Holders/Kurtz & Klindt are not going to bring him another Prem bearing in mind how fortunate they were with the Gods shining on them in 2018. This year the squad were not good enough when it mattered (even though topped the league) and arguably he would need to invest in more Overseas talent to even get a chance to get back there. Something he has not got especially after the financial disaster of 2019 on several fronts. Maybe he feels that if they can put together a strong team in a weakened league that wins most weeks , will perhaps have some of the fickle fans who kept away in 2019 coming back in 2020 as success is important to many who have been spoiled with it over the years (irrespective of what league you may be in ??). I am not aware of any major team sponsor having been secured for 2020 although early days. Bearing in mind the calibre of who they got fairly late in the close season which was way down on what they got in previous seasons from the likes of Readypower and Volvo, may also be playing heavily on the club if one was not to be forthcoming of any real financial stature. I certainly don't expect admission prices to go down as I would not expect an extra £1/2 to make much difference to the overall crowd level to real speedway supporters and we should not kid ourselves that such a small saving will realistically put 2/3/400 on the weekly crowd. Also bearing i mind that this is Poole one of the more affluent parts of the UK. The Fords may well want to consolidate after the Financial disaster of 2019 which was certainly accelerated by the loss of the main team sponsor who went bust owing them all that money and not withstanding the loss of what I heard was 3 other major sponsors who for varying reasons could not continue their support in 2019. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out in coming week/s and the Team the Ford's plan to put out to be competitive in challenging for the title/Trophies. Leicester showed how it can be done so let's hope Poole can do similar. Having said that having a big JCB Supplier as your main sponsor and also funding Kevlars certainly helped. Plus they even put out the best N/L team on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, dorothy58 said: £15 entry for CL ? Are you having a laugh, most are £16 or £17 From a £17 admission, £2.83 goes to the VAT man. £14.17 is the club's share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabba59 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 How much is the admission at Edinburgh? Think you will find it the same as Poole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, pitstop84 said: How much is the admission at Edinburgh? Think you will find it the same as Poole? EDINBURGH ADMISSION PRICES Adult £17.50 Senior £15.50 Student £15.50 Child 12 to 16 years £7.50 Child - 5 to 11 years £2 Child - Under 5 years Free I'm pretty sure Poole are more Expensive. Edited November 12, 2019 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabba59 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, tellboy said: EDINBURGH ADMISSION PRICES Adult £17.50 Senior £15.50 Student £15.50 Child 12 to 16 years £7.50 Child - 5 to 11 years £2 Child - Under 5 years Free I'm pretty sure Poole are more Expensive. Sorry thought it was 18 pound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 hours ago, dorothy58 said: £15 entry for CL ? Are you having a laugh, most are £16 or £17 Not having a laugh. But £15 was easier to work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, DC2 said: That 25% saving is probably on riders’ wages alone (15% from replacing a PL number one with an NL reserve and 10% across the pay rates of the others). But it does not take into account the reduced revenue from no TV money, lower crowds, lower entrance fees, less sponsorship and less advertising. Poole will just be chasing more losses. That's how I see it tbh. Hence the doubts I have of it happening.. Mind you Matt is a lot cleverer than me, business wise, I guess Edited November 12, 2019 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 8:20 AM, ray c said: wow Not really would be new ones next year anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, sugarray said: Not really would be new ones next year anyway That's what I thought when Skidder posted it. So not much of an indication. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: That's what I thought when Skidder posted it. So not much of an indication. I think it is, as if we stayed certain riders would stay so you don't need to get rid of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: That's how I see it tbh. Hence the doubts I have of it happening.. Mind you Matt is a lot cleverer than me, business wise, I guess Thing is you are being serious whereas DC is taking the.. <insert word> Edited November 12, 2019 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Thing is you are bring serious whereas DC is taking the.. <insert word> Can't speak for DC. But I don't think Ford will be any better off. Just my opinion, hope i'm wrong with the money side,and it works out well if it happens. Edited November 12, 2019 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabba59 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Matt Ford will be a lot better off 50k TV money will only cover 5 meetings in premiership so work it out 25 percent savings in championship bet his crowd will not go down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, pitstop84 said: Matt Ford will be a lot better off 50k TV money will only cover 5 meetings in premiership so work it out 25 percent savings in championship bet his crowd will not go down Hang on, £50k isn’t worth having, but £40k in lost sponsorship has made Poole go bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabba59 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Where's it said Poole have gone bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, DC2 said: Hang on, £50k isn’t worth having, but £40k in lost sponsorship has made Poole go bust? 21 minutes ago, DC2 said: Hang on, £50k isn’t worth having, but £40k in lost sponsorship has made Poole go bust? Shock horror Poole have gone bust because DC2 says so!! What an idiotic post. If you are so concerned with Poole's future you might try reading all the reasons Poole lost money last year. They are well documented even for those on some sort of twisted wind up. Terry Russell has already changed his 2020 budget several times to try to find ways of replacing the income from 2 lost Poole home meetings Edited November 12, 2019 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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