1984Star Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 12:10 PM, Skidder1 said: Almost certainly Swindon v Wolves. Expand Not saying your wrong but why Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 12:10 PM, Skidder1 said: Almost certainly Swindon v Wolves. Expand Why Wolves? What did they achieve? BV and Ipswich were the runners up in the two competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Since no team won the other title why not have Sheffield or any other new club to the league or for a big crowd a Somerset based select Edited October 23, 2019 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Wolves?? Came 4th and hammered in semi final plus didn't qualify for supporters cup final either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 2:30 PM, hagonshocker said: Wolves?? Came 4th and hammered in semi final plus didn't qualify for supporters cup final either.... Expand Agree why Wolves but we finished 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 3:06 PM, Red Flag said: Agree why Wolves but we finished 3rd Expand Many many apologies. Don't know why I said Wolves? A senior moment. The shield should have been Poole v Swindon but obviously can't be so Poole beat KL in the Shield so it should be Swindon v Kings Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Maybe the opponents in the Shield should be Poole’s 2020 team versus the Sprockets. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 3:12 PM, Skidder1 said: Many many apologies. Don't know why I said Wolves? A senior moment. The shield should have been Poole v Swindon but obviously can't be so Poole beat KL in the Shield so it should be Swindon v Kings Lynn. Expand No it shouldn't have been. It should be Swindon v Belle Vue or Ipswich who were the two runners up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 3:06 PM, Red Flag said: Agree why Wolves but we finished 3rd Expand Oh yeah didnt realise lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17990098.swindon-robins-owner-terry-russell-wants-bspa-increase-points-average-teams-allowed-operate-within-improve-sport/ So, who is El Tel alluding to? Surely no promoter would be stupid enough to ramp up the prices in a depressed market given that most teams are struggling for regular crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Every title-winning team has made a similar argument about increasing the points limit in previous years and not only been turned down but effectively shouted down for being so stupid as many clubs would simply not be able to afford it - even though they don't all pay 'silly money' to riders. If it or something close to it is agreed at the AGM, will Buster be increasing his budget at all the clubs he has an interest in in order for them to be competitive? Its more likely to drive clubs away from the Premiership than attracting more to come up - even with the incentive of a Eurosport £50k per club. £50k per year sounds a lot but some riders get that as a single signing on fee in Poland and I'm not just talking GP riders!!! Promoters have been rightly criticised in the past for simply paying out their Sky monies to get the top riders, rather than investing it in their own club's infrastructure, Surely thats a very similar outcome to what TR is suggesting. Edited October 24, 2019 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 9:07 AM, Skidder1 said: Every title-winning team has made a similar argument about increasing the points limit in previous years and not only been turned down but effectively shouted down for being so stupid as many clubs would simply not be able to afford it - even though they don't all pay 'silly money' to riders. If it or something close to it is agreed at the AGM, will Buster be increasing his budget at all the clubs he has an interest in in order for them to be competitive? Its more likely to drive clubs away from the Premiership than attracting more to come up ..... Expand Firstly, you suggest that other clubs would have to shell out big time to be competitive, but that’s not the case, is it? Swindon weren’t run away league winners this season. They hardly won any away matches before the play offs. They were lucky to come good at the right time. On the eve of the semis it seemed that Wolves were the fancied club, especially with Douglas and Becker at reserve. One rider injury or loss of form and Swindon wouldn’t have won. Even if Wolves didn’t strengthen next season there’s every chance that they could beat this year’s Swindon team, especially with Douglas and Becker improving. Having said all of that I don’t think a 46.34 limit next season will be fair if there are more than eight teams because that would make it too difficult for the ninth club to find the right riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins les Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 9:32 AM, DC2 said: Firstly, you suggest that other clubs would have to shell out big time to be competitive, but that’s not the case, is it? Swindon weren’t run away league winners this season. They hardly won any away matches before the play offs. They were lucky to come good at the right time. On the eve of the semis it seemed that Wolves were the fancied club, especially with Douglas and Becker at reserve. One rider injury or loss of form and Swindon wouldn’t have won. Even if Wolves didn’t strengthen next season there’s every chance that they could beat this year’s Swindon team, especially with Douglas and Becker improving. Having said all of that I don’t think a 46.34 limit next season will be fair if there are more than eight teams because that would make it too difficult for the ninth club to find the right riders. Expand Not lucky to improve! Rosco made the right replacement signings when Lampert withheld his services. Continued improvement after Razzer signed & then the changes to reserves when Zach retired. Good management from Rosco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 11:12 AM, robins les said: Not lucky to improve! Rosco made the right replacement signings when Lampert withheld his services. Continued improvement after Razzer signed & then the changes to reserves when Zach retired. Good management from Rosco. Expand So was it good management that Rosco signed Lampart and Wajtknecht and then sacked them and signed Nielsen instead of Vissing. There was an element of bad luck for the club that Zach lost confidence and retired for the season and that Stefan got injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 11:57 AM, DC2 said: So was it good management that Rosco signed Lampart and Wajtknecht and then sacked them and signed Nielsen instead of Vissing. There was an element of bad luck for the club that Zach lost confidence and retired for the season and that Stefan got injured. Expand It's not how you start, it's how you finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 11:57 AM, DC2 said: So was it good management that Rosco signed Lampart and Wajtknecht and then sacked them and signed Nielsen instead of Vissing. There was an element of bad luck for the club that Zach lost confidence and retired for the season and that Stefan got injured. Expand That wasnt the case ! You state yourself that Zach lost confidence, and decided to step away from speedway for this year. Lampart had his permission to ride here revoked by his Polish club, Motor Lublin, due to his poor form for them, and was more often than not, reduced to a role of spectator in Poland, with Robert Lambert appearing regularly instead of him. therefore, neither rider was "sacked" as you put it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 3:10 PM, jeffster said: That wasnt the case ! You state yourself that Zach lost confidence, and decided to step away from speedway for this year. Lampart had his permission to ride here revoked by his Polish club, Motor Lublin, due to his poor form for them, and was more often than not, reduced to a role of spectator in Poland, with Robert Lambert appearing regularly instead of him. therefore, neither rider was "sacked" as you put it ! Expand Apologies, you’re right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Hasn't JD just signed a new 2 year contract with Vasterik. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins les Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 11:57 AM, DC2 said: So was it good management that Rosco signed Lampart and Wajtknecht and then sacked them and signed Nielsen instead of Vissing. There was an element of bad luck for the club that Zach lost confidence and retired for the season and that Stefan got injured. Expand He didn't sack Zach, he retired from speedway as he had lost confidence. Nielsen rode wellin his 1st meeting for the Robins & then got injured. Lampert was a gamble on a rider who's average fitted the riders he was already signing. Not every gamble comes off but Razza certainly did. That's Rosco's 4th title, it can't all been down to luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 2:50 PM, robins les said: He didn't sack Zach, he retired from speedway as he had lost confidence. Nielsen rode wellin his 1st meeting for the Robins & then got injured. Lampert was a gamble on a rider who's average fitted the riders he was already signing. Not every gamble comes off but Razza certainly did. That's Rosco's 4th title, it can't all been down to luck. Expand All true. He did sack Shanes though and if his first choice Lampart had remained rather than Rasmus, would we have won the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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