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My guess is that most Peterborough supporters do not follow happenings on forums - as much as 95 per cent I would say. As a result they know nothing of this 'parking concern' problems and (hopefully) will turn up untroubled for the opening meeting of the season.

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45 minutes ago, gustix said:

My guess is that most Peterborough supporters do not follow happenings on forums - as much as 95 per cent I would say. As a result they know nothing of this 'parking concern' problems and (hopefully) will turn up untroubled for the opening meeting of the season.

Someone on Twitter seems to think that the current arrangements are the new arrangements so even if they do use social media then they're hard of thinking.

The first meeting at 2pm Sunday should give a false impression as you suggest (usually always the best attended unless the club has success later in the season) but then they get to the bread and butter when their fanbase probably takes a consistent hit.

As Mick bratley said in his final blog "People 'in the know' within the entertainment industry suggest that all Speedway clubs will lose 8% of their core support every year, through a variety of differing reasons." (And he won the EL) so we've consciously chosen to increase that percentage from the off by alienating our disabled fans and their associates..


 

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1 hour ago, Crump99 said:

Someone on Twitter seems to think that the current arrangements are the new arrangements so even if they do use social media then they're hard of thinking.

The first meeting at 2pm Sunday should give a false impression as you suggest (usually always the best attended unless the club has success later in the season) but then they get to the bread and butter when their fanbase probably takes a consistent hit.

As Mick bratley said in his final blog "People 'in the know' within the entertainment industry suggest that all Speedway clubs will lose 8% of their core support every year, through a variety of differing reasons." (And he won the EL) so we've consciously chosen to increase that percentage from the off by alienating our disabled fans and their associates..


 

A bloke for 3 hours on a tenner per hour would cover it. 2 hrs before and 1 after. It's not a game changer. Would save the club money.

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1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

A bloke for 3 hours on a tenner per hour would cover it. 2 hrs before and 1 after. It's not a game changer. Would save the club money.

Exactly. 

The "statement" (where they shamefully use an on-track accident that has f&ck all to do with this as justification) reads as if they've had incidents with specific people that they couldn't handle, so their idea of a solution is to screw all badge holders just to make a point to the minority who abused the facility last year. It's gonna bite them on the bum badly either way which is a shame.

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10 hours ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

Don't bite Neil.

Let them throw a hissy fit. It's only a select few of miserable duckers on a internet forum. People will still go and Buster has done what he thinks is best and I back his decision 100%. Back the club, Back the owners. Roll on 2020 and the blue badge brigade will still turn up after they've stopped crying.

What a heartless person you are.  My wife, as I've said before, is in an advanced stage of cancer for both lungs, breast and hip, which means she can only do short walks at a time without resting, which rules us out of ever going to Peterborough again. 
I personally find your comments most hurtful, and hope for your sake that you never find yourself in the position that we are in, then you won't be so cocky with your insulting statements, so please, for the sake of all those whose lives are being torn apart, stop it now. 

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2 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

Just block him Mike and ignore him - he's the current BSF moron and not worth wasting time on. Hope you're both OK

We're struggling mate.  Jan starts yet another 21-week course of chemo this morning.  

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8 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

A bloke for 3 hours on a tenner per hour would cover it. 2 hrs before and 1 after. It's not a game changer. Would save the club money.

If we assume that say twenty cars with blue badge holders stop attending, and I'm sure it will be a lot more than that, there's usually a minimum of two people in each vehicle, that takes it up to forty paying customers, and let's assume they are all concession customers, that the club will lose throughout the season.
At the moment, assuming they don't make the play-off's, they have sixteen home fixtures planned.  Based on the 2019 admission price of £16 (they haven't disclosed the 2020 prices on their website, other than for season tickets) that equates to £10,240.  All twenty cars pay £1 to park which equals £320, and lets presume that 50% of them buy a programme at £3 peer head, which comes out at £960.  That means in 2020, the club are going to lose in the region of £11,520.  Can they really afford to do?  

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6 hours ago, The Doctor... said:

Exactly. 

The "statement" (where they shamefully use an on-track accident that has f&ck all to do with this as justification) reads as if they've had incidents with specific people that they couldn't handle, so their idea of a solution is to screw all badge holders just to make a point to the minority who abused the facility last year. It's gonna bite them on the bum badly either way which is a shame.

Additionally there's no mention of measures that they took to deal with the issues raised, in fact they didn't with any recognised communication to those affected. Clearly they've dug a hole, unprecedented against their supporters by the club in it's 50 years, and then continued digging rather than see commonsense and do the right thing within the family sport that they claim to be a member of. How much effect this will have in the time the club has left at the EoES I don't know but the club, it's sponsors and associates need to be viewed in a different light now and this action must not be forgotten.

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2 hours ago, Mimmo said:

What a heartless person you are.  My wife, as I've said before, is in an advanced stage of cancer for both lungs, breast and hip, which means she can only do short walks at a time without resting, which rules us out of ever going to Peterborough again. 
I personally find your comments most hurtful, and hope for your sake that you never find yourself in the position that we are in, then you won't be so cocky with your insulting statements, so please, for the sake of all those whose lives are being torn apart, stop it now. 

Neil is right this lowlife troll is a parasite with many many different names on here, off its rocker!! IT speaks for no club or rider or anybody for that matter although I suspect one or two on here enjoy it but occasionally goes to far especially with that post....inadequate in the extreme 

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30 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

I'm delighted to see that Team GB are sponsored by Europe’s leading wheelchair accessible vehicle supplier. Good to see that at national level disabled drivers aren't forgotten........

Here's the link to today's press release - Team GB

No irony there then.  However is the argument line of "can't walk far" not hitting the mark in terms of persuading the promotion to adjust their position because, as this sponsor highlights, wheelchairs/scooters are in common usage so perhaps an argument based on wheelchair/scooter access would be more persuasive? 

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Seriously what is the hold up with these last signings ! Surely the riders I question must have sorted their schedules etc by now. My business has enquired about some sponsorship for the team this season but with only 4 riders announced its hard to commit to anything just yet ! 

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4 hours ago, Mimmo said:

If we assume that say twenty cars with blue badge holders stop attending, and I'm sure it will be a lot more than that, there's usually a minimum of two people in each vehicle, that takes it up to forty paying customers, and let's assume they are all concession customers, that the club will lose throughout the season.
At the moment, assuming they don't make the play-off's, they have sixteen home fixtures planned.  Based on the 2019 admission price of £16 (they haven't disclosed the 2020 prices on their website, other than for season tickets) that equates to £10,240.  All twenty cars pay £1 to park which equals £320, and lets presume that 50% of them buy a programme at £3 peer head, which comes out at £960.  That means in 2020, the club are going to lose in the region of £11,520.  Can they really afford to do?  

It's madness when you add it all up. Buster said he lost money last season, but then this is announced. Compare that to a man and a few cones for 3 hours a meeting @£10 an hour. Whats that, £480 per season, based on 16 meetings.

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3 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

No irony there then.  However is the argument line of "can't walk far" not hitting the mark in terms of persuading the promotion to adjust their position because, as this sponsor highlights, wheelchairs/scooters are in common usage so perhaps an argument based on wheelchair/scooter access would be more persuasive? 

Closer access is required by the ambulant disabled with limited mobility. If a disabled person has 'wheels' a longer distance may be possible. However for both groups bear in mind the ground conditions - from Gate 3 a mixture of grass, gravel and tarmac. Add in the poor light at night and you're making it very difficult for the disabled.

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