Panthers99 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, wealdstone said: This person is close, very close to those who matter at Peterborough IMO Nah, if its who I think it is and thought its him for a very long time, it's just a avid fan who goes home and away with his flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, NeilWatson said: Nothing of the sort. I made it quite clear at the time why I closed the petition. You reverted to the promoter definition of clear though Neil which just points out that they know something that paying customers, or those otherwise affected don't. Clarity and good reasoning can bring people onside and create understanding all round. The club statement that you point to as definitive is neither clear or has good reasoning (that couldn't have been dealt with with less draconian measures), so what bit of "I had a discussion with one of the management team from Peterborough Speedway today. I have been advised that there will be no change to the new arrangements outlined" are we missing because the club statement didn't satisfy you up to the point of your discussion? Edited March 12, 2020 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, wealdstone said: This person is close, very close to those who matter at Peterborough IMO If he was that close he would actually see Niels health problems and understand why he made a very valid petition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 People keep saying he,,,, maybe need to start thinking she. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Speedster15 said: I'm off guys. Hopefully I can continue this situation tomorrow and hopefully I get the chance to reach out to Mimmo and certain others that need to be checked on. If not then it's a shame but Phil really should even if it's just to do this one thing. He should let me stick around just for a bit and do what needs to be done. Things should be left in the manor they were and people affected need to be checked on and be given the chance to have a heart to heart conversation with me via PM or on a thread for everyone to see if they wish. I've done wrong and I'm trying to put things right but it's all down to Phil now. Why don’t you just PM Mimmo and then leave the forum? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, wealdstone said: This person is close, very close to those who matter at Peterborough IMO If that is true then he / she is very unlikely to be able to pour oil on troubled waters of any kind ( or have any interest in doing so ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambpanther Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: If that is true then he / she is very unlikely to be able to pour oil on troubled waters of any kind ( or have any interest in doing so ). Carl Johnson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crump99 said: You reverted to the promoter definition of clear though Neil which just points out that they know something that paying customers, or those otherwise affected don't. Clarity and good reasoning can bring people onside and create understanding all round. The club statement that you point to as definitive is neither clear or has good reasoning (that couldn't have been dealt with with less draconian measures), so what bit of "I had a discussion with one of the management team from Peterborough Speedway today. I have been advised that there will be no change to the new arrangements outlined" are we missing because the club statement didn't satisfy you up to the point of your discussion? My post on February 19th read: ‘I had a discussion with one of the management team from Peterborough Speedway today. I have been advised that there will be no change to the new arrangements outlined in the Club press release of 28th January (http://www.peterborough-speedway.com/news.php?extend.3747). Thank you to all who signed...’ I don't see how that could be any clearer. If the Club press release is 'neither clear or has good reasoning' that's something to take up with them, not me. You are missing nothing, I am still dissatisfied with the situation but as it was made clear that the decision would not be changed, despite the management being fully aware of the petition's existence and the 180+ signatures, the petition was closed. 2 hours ago, hans fan said: If he was that close he would actually see Niels health problems and understand why he made a very valid petition. I assume you meant me rather than NKI..... The new arrangements would affect me greatly if I were permitted to attend meetings at the Showground and I know of a good number of others that will be prevented from attending by the change. My approach to the issue didn't demand the new policy be dropped, but simply asked for alternative arrangements to be put in place to recognise the particular needs of disabled fans and Blue Badge holders. Despite the numbers that supported the petition, and the very personal and moving statements made by a number of fans, it seems that won't be the case. I would add that I don't believe that the Club would be so unprofessional as to condone 'Speedster15' posting on here ostensibly on their behalf, and wonder if they in fact know that it is going on. Edited March 12, 2020 by NeilWatson Addition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Speedster15 said: 3 hours in and not one like says it all. Your post doesn't affect me but I shall be the bigger person and give you a word of advice that should take on this occasion. Coronavirus is no joke. It's taking hundreds of lives soon to be thousands and who knows maybe even millions. If one of your loved ones ends up catching the coronavirus and passes it on to other members of your family and some of or even all of them cant fight off the coronavirus then it's a guarantee you wouldn't be making any jokes about the coronavirus then so it's best not to make any jokes now. This is not a dig to get a reaction. This is just me being straight up honest with you. Call me a troll or even swear at me if you feel like it but I think you've done more damage to your own image with a coronavirus joke. Totally agree this is not a subject for jest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytiger Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Only another few day's and Speedway is BACK. I can't wait,it's been a long wet winter. So looking forward to watching my favourite Sport. Good Luck to all rider's have a great season injury free. Please put a Smile back on our faces because I'm fed up with all these moaners on here. BE HAPPY. !!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Are you able to enlighten me why you was banned Neil ? A lot of unpaid hours go into promoting/helping speedway survive, & I find it very poor that the management have banned you from attending. You don't come over as an aggressive person, so I'm confused how this situation has developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, proud panther said: Are you able to enlighten me why you was banned Neil ? A lot of unpaid hours go into promoting/helping speedway survive, & I find it very poor that the management have banned you from attending. You don't come over as an aggressive person, so I'm confused how this situation has developed. I can’t say, because I have never been given a reason. Following the 2018 AGM I was asked to continue as a Promoter under Mr Chapman’s ownership. In January 2019 for various reasons I decided I would not apply for a licence for the 2019 season and advised Mr Chapman accordingly, and handed all the Club admin I held over to the new owners in good order (and have been publicly thanked for doing so). It’s usual for former Promoters to be welcome as guests at their Club (I’ve been Promoter at Peterborough on three different occasions of course) but that was denied me, as was the ability to pay at the turnstiles. Edited March 12, 2020 by NeilWatson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, NeilWatson said: My post on February 19th read: ‘I had a discussion with one of the management team from Peterborough Speedway today. I have been advised that there will be no change to the new arrangements outlined in the Club press release of 28th January (http://www.peterborough-speedway.com/news.php?extend.3747). Thank you to all who signed...’ I don't see how that could be any clearer. If the Club press release is 'neither clear or has good reasoning' that's something to take up with them, not me. You are missing nothing, I am still dissatisfied with the situation but as it was made clear that the decision would not be changed, despite the management being fully aware of the petition's existence and the 180+ signatures, the petition was closed. You're so infuriating at times. That's not a discussion. It's them telling you what they've already said without you questioning it (as you had the perfect opportunity to do what you've just told me to do). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, greytiger said: Only another few day's and Speedway is BACK. I can't wait,it's been a long wet winter. So looking forward to watching my favourite Sport. Good Luck to all rider's have a great season injury free. Please put a Smile back on our faces because I'm fed up with all these moaners on here. BE HAPPY. !!!!! Think you could be wishful thinking about seeing much speedway soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Reading these posts has left me under no doubt that this Speedster15 is the original Pboro loon that came out years ago . The one who posted about having a Bjerre poster on his wall, a huge Sundstrom fan etc? Has to be. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: I can’t say, because I have never been given a reason. Following the 2018 AGM I was asked to continue as a Promoter under Mr Chapman’s ownership. In January 2019 for various reasons I decided I would not apply for a licence for the 2019 season and advised Mr Chapman accordingly, and handed all the Club admin I held over to the new owners in good order (and have been publicly thanked for doing so). It’s usual for former Promoters to be welcome as guests at their Club (I’ve been Promoter at Peterborough on three different occasions of course) but that was denied me, as was the ability to pay at the turnstiles. That is crazy, even by Chapman's outdated idea of speedway promotion. Mind you, he did the same with his son, who was completely switched on to taking speedway forward, so I shouldn't be surprised really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Pinny said: Reading these posts has left me under no doubt that this Speedster15 is the original Pboro loon that came out years ago . The one who posted about having a Bjerre poster on his wall, a huge Sundstrom fan etc? Has to be. He definitely isn't in the know, as he claims to be. He won't get any respect until he reveals who he is, in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, proud panther said: He definitely isn't in the know, as he claims to be. He won't get any respect until he reveals who he is, in my opinion. He won’t reveal his identity because of how he acted on here during the last ten years. Not just just his recent pathetic posts. Isn’t it ironic about the BB holders and such , when this guy is probably the most disabled out of everyone??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Panthers99 said: Nah, if its who I think it is and thought its him for a very long time, it's just a avid fan who goes home and away with his flag. That's Michael Jones,,, he has learning difficulties as far as I'm aware. I'm more thinking female, a partner of one of those involved,,, certainly types and talks like a female,,,, going over the same thing over and over again. Which could explain the sudden back tracking,,, as its close to her name coming out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Crumpet77 said: Did they really object to the word 'excluded'. Am i reading that right !!! That's quite shocking when they clearly have excluded some people with disabilities. Who does twitter for the club, anyone know ? Nope you're reading that right. It's just word play. Technically they haven't excluded anyone from attending but if the promoter's remove a longstanding reasonable adjustment managed by all previous promotions over the last 15/20 years and consequently any of their disabled customers can't attend because of that then that's an exclusion whether they like the term or not! Edited March 12, 2020 by Crump99 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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