Mark Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Arch Stanton said: No idea. Have they been increasing, or decreasing? Averages last 4 seasons which will need checking as I'm confused by all the different numbers agsinst the same rider . Consistently good apart from last season. Even on 2018 form he would put 1.5pts on his 2019 average. 6.13 2019 7.88 2018 8.42 2017 7.15 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyGround Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: There’s a few riders that can still knock in decent points in their late 30’s early 40’s, Andersen isn’t one of them. Despite people making excuses for injuries, truth be told he’s been on the slide for a number of years now. He’s aged badly compared to others. Hans is a rider's rider, if he can keep race fit he is capable of beating anybody - certainly in the G.B. premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorelsm Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mark said: Averages last 4 seasons which will need checking as I'm confused by all the different numbers agsinst the same rider . Consistently good apart from last season. Even on 2018 form he would put 1.5pts on his 2019 average. 6.13 2019 7.88 2018 8.42 2017 7.15 2016 Who did he ride for in 2017... that was a good year was it not! Lets hope he gets his gating gloves back on! You knew what his averages were before asked the question didn't you... Ahh its good to wind up these Ipswich people eh, only trouble is, they'll get their own back during the season when they turn up with those two blooming Aussies and cause mayhem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 8 hours ago, moorelsm said: Who did he ride for in 2017... that was a good year was it not! Lets hope he gets his gating gloves back on! You knew what his averages were before asked the question didn't you... Ahh its good to wind up these Ipswich people eh, only trouble is, they'll get their own back during the season when they turn up with those two blooming Aussies and cause mayhem. Are you sure its only going to be two blooming Aussies ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, moorelsm said: Another comment who didn't watch speedway at the showground each week last year. As I've said repeatedly when anybody missed the gate they weren't overtake. Invariably when Hans was behind he was nearly always right there trying, as a result would get my vote. Others like Nichols for example would end up being miles behind... Fair point but only problem is that these days his starting is indifferent and he finds himself chasing more often than not. That was great in 2006 when a fast barnstorning Andersen would cut through an intimidated opposition with ease at the EoES (y'know, I'm a GP star coming through and that's the safety fence, would you care to throttle off or fall off ) but these days he is not particularly fast or intimidating. I did watch speedway at the EoES in 2020 when it was on (each week, I do indeed remember those days ) and as Andersen's confidence grew he seemed to think that he was the 2006 vintage and looked like an accident waiting to happen, as indeed it did. He's still just about worth a punt but hopefully Johnson has a plan b when Andersen is absent in 2020. Edited January 10, 2020 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Crump99 said: Fair point but only problem is that these days his starting is indifferent and he finds himself chasing more often than not. That was great in 2006 when a fast barnstorning Andersen would cut through an intimidated opposition with ease at the EoES (y'know, I'm a GP star coming through and that's the safety fence, would you care to throttle off or fall off ) but these days he is not particularly fast or intimidating. I did watch speedway at the EoES in 2020 when it was on (each week, I do indeed remember those days ) and as Andersen's confidence grew he seemed to think that he was the 2006 vintage and looked like an accident waiting to happen, as indeed it did. He's still just about worth a punt but hopefully Johnson has a plan b when Andersen is absent in 2020. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want Hans back, he is certainly past his best but on a 5.79 an absolute steal in my book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorelsm Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I don't know why anyone wouldn't want Hans back, he is certainly past his best but on a 5.79 an absolute steal in my book. Can't believe I'm agreeing with a Poole fan! Wasn't suggesting you aren't a regular fan Mr Crump... Was just defending Hans from that Arch Stanton chap.. 2 hours ago, Pob said: Are you sure its only going to be two blooming Aussies ? You still think you're getting Mr Holder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, moorelsm said: Can't believe I'm agreeing with a Poole fan! Wasn't suggesting you aren't a regular fan Mr Crump... Was just defending Hans from that Arch Stanton chap.. You still think you're getting Mr Holder? Arch Stanton seems to have a problem with Hans, no idea why. Personally I would expect him to get back to a 7 point average. Having seen footage of his crash, it looked very bad and l would imagine there was a fear he would be lucky to recover enough to lead a normal life let alone ride a bike again. Edited January 10, 2020 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Andersen will put a point on, then move up to to the heatleader positions and subsequently lose it again. He's on the decline now is Hans, had some bad injuries. Peterborough could potentially build quite a solid team here. No stand out riders but a strong chain. Not compete I know but I can as can many, pretty much guess. Don't know where to put them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 It really depends on the team they end up with as they have two options, one with NKI and another with a solid 1-7. Having listened to all the riders discussed on here and friends it sounds like Option A is Iversen, Tungate and possibly Ostergaard Option B is Tungate, ANO possibly Bech and Nicholls Both have possibilities but option B does cause me some concerns regarding heats 13 and 15. I just wish they would sort it out and announce them because as others have said it’s dragging on a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Worries over heats 13&15 would be tempered by the prospect of having a very strong pairing in heats 2,8,12 & 14. Very few teams are going to have that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: Arch Stanton seems to have a problem with Hans, no idea why. Personally I would expect him to get back to a 7 point average. Having seen footage of his crash, it looked very bad and l would imagine there was a fear he would be lucky to recover enough to lead a normal life let alone ride a bike again. A problem with Hans? Why on earth would I have a problem with him? What a bizarre thing to say. It’s called an opinion. My opinion is simply that I don’t think Andersen has aged well compared to others! Good grief. He’s not a terrible signing on his average, but I’m not expecting as big an increase as others are confidently predicting. There may be a small improvement, but my guess is he’ll be around the 6 point mark. Edited January 10, 2020 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: A problem with Hans? Why on earth would I have a problem with him? What a bizarre thing to say. It’s called an opinion. My opinion is simply that I don’t think Andersen has aged well compared to others! Good grief. He’s not a terrible signing on his average, but I’m not expecting as big an increase as others are confidently predicting. There may be a small improvement, but my guess is he’ll be around the 6 point mark. Not bizarre at all,you are constantly putting him down, disregarding his horrendous crash as though it was nothing. I think he will finish at around 7, time will tell but if he fails to achieve that figure it won't be through lack of effort. We all know he isn't the rider he was but most fans like riders who don't give up and give maximum effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Not bizarre at all,you are constantly putting him down, disregarding his horrendous crash as though it was nothing. I think he will finish at around 7, time will tell but if he fails to achieve that figure it won't be through lack of effort. We all know he isn't the rider he was but most fans like riders who don't give up and give maximum effort. The first time I posted about him was yesterday for crying out loud! I was giving my opinion, on a forum, where you give opinions, on a Peterborough thread, after they’d just signed him!! And that makes me “have a problem with him”? Grow up FFS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 This forum has gone to the dogs. People have problems with riders now if their opinions don’t sit right with others. You couldn’t make it up. Did nobody take any notice of Andersen’s form BEFORE that accident against Ipswich? At best, it was inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, moorelsm said: Can't believe I'm agreeing with a Poole fan! Wasn't suggesting you aren't a regular fan Mr Crump... Was just defending Hans from that Arch Stanton chap.. You still think you're getting Mr Holder? Everything seems to be pointing that way , i get the feeling we'll know after the Aussie championship is all settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Andersen if in a good team as a third heatleader with two riders above him would average 7.5 I reckon. Put him at 1 or 5 and he would average around 6-6.5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, moorelsm said: Who did he ride for in 2017... that was a good year was it not! Lets hope he gets his gating gloves back on! You knew what his averages were before asked the question didn't you... Ahh its good to wind up these Ipswich people eh, only trouble is, they'll get their own back during the season when they turn up with those two blooming Aussies and cause mayhem. No. I didn't know his averages but remember his always scoring well until last season which was full of injury. Did he ride for Leicester or Poole ? Cant be sure. Edited January 10, 2020 by Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve Irving said: This forum has gone to the dogs. People have problems with riders now if their opinions don’t sit right with others. You couldn’t make it up. Did nobody take any notice of Andersen’s form BEFORE that accident against Ipswich? At best, it was inconsistent. he broke a shoulder in Denmark but came back too quickly to ride in the GP quakifer at GLasgow. Won his first heat but stopped in his 2nd as the pain was too much. Then had a terrible crash where he hit his head bad at Peterborough and came back too soon before making a hole in the back straight fence at the same track I doubt he rode many meetings without injury or lack of confidence. All 3 were big offs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: The first time I posted about him was yesterday for crying out loud! I was giving my opinion, on a forum, where you give opinions, on a Peterborough thread, after they’d just signed him!! And that makes me “have a problem with him”? Grow up FFS. Other people have opinions too! It is my opinion that Hans is a good signing on a bargain average and should do very well next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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