TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Flappy said: Tungate and Hans average what they do for a reason. It's not just don't to injury. They are going to have good days and bad days Same as most riders in this league. Think positive. I know last year was a disaster for us but honestly for example at the Showground Heat 13 between Tungate, Andersen, Kurtz & Kildemand is a pick em. Heat 13 between Tungate, Andersen, Thorssell & Masters is the same. Heat 13 between Tungate, Andersen, Klindt & King is the same All level playing fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Never know we might end up with a No.1 at the start of 2020. Have to see what Buster brings in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Rockstar99 said: Plenty have said it's a title challenging side across various social media platforms and some on here. And they're right. 2 points under the limit means nothing with that side. You don't need a No.1 in this league. Masters & Thorssell will do the business around Monmore. Morris, Becker & Douglas will all improve starting GSA's. Rory Schlein is capable of doing a job in the engine room with his experience and Nicol could be anything. Could end up like Becker after one year or he could be a complete bust during his first year. If he's like Becker then that is 4 average improvers. With 3 at least maintaining starting GSA's. I think Wolves have the best team in the league so far despite being two points under the limit. What they lose in the HL department they more than make up for in the tail. I honestly would mind us going with BWD & Nicholls at reserve. Because the tail end is the most important element to winning titles imo. Reserves can take 7 rides. Replace any under performing rider. Reserves can also be forced into extra rides if a top end rider withdraws from a meeting. On paper. Stewart, Perks & Rowe Howarth, T. Kurtz & A. Morris get smacked 24/7 by Becker, Douglas & Nicol or Andersen, BWD & Nicholls. So what both clubs lose in the HL department they gain in the reserve / tail end department. We must read different social media then. Dont get me wrong I still think it’s a decent side that’s been suggested if Masters signs however it’s plain crazy to waste 2 points in team building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Holder to Ipswich apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 39 minutes ago, Flappy said: Holder to Ipswich apparently He's a has been if we are to be brutally honest. Ever since the Darcy stuff his career has sunk like the titanic. So wouldn't worry over this one. Got to a point where even some Poole fans didn't want him at Poole anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, stevebrum said: We must read different social media then. Dont get me wrong I still think it’s a decent side that’s been suggested if Masters signs however it’s plain crazy to waste 2 points in team building. Depends which way you're looking at it. Did Broc Nicol have multiple offers. If he did has CVS snapped him up now so he can use Nicol in future seasons too. Instead of letting him sign elsewhere and possibly missing out on the chance of signing him in years to come? I think it's a signing that is looking ahead more than just the 2020 season. I think CVS has a plan in place where he wants Becker & Nicol to be the No.1 & No.5 at Wolves in a few years so he didn't want to run the risk of Nicol going elsewhere so he was prepared to build 2.00 points under the limit. I honestly don't see this as a crazy move. I think it could work out very well. Very shrewd forward thinking business decision imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Rockstar99 said: Hans & Harris would be capable of doing that for us. Age is just a number. Both on false averages due to certain circumstances in 2019. Tungate also capable at home over an 8.00 point average. I would only take KL & Sheffield's top two as the others would be no different to ours. Masters & Thorssell would score well at home but bang average away from home. Same as our proposed top two. BV exactly the same. Brady a known choke artist at No.1. Kildemand back in British Speedway because he got dumped out of the Ekstraliga because Gorzow realised he wasn't good enough. Killer is bang average tbh. Good entertainment value but also reckless and prone to mistakes. Wouldn't rely on him to win a Heat 13 or Heat 15 over most heat leaders in this league. Klindt and King. No different to us. Score well at home but away bang average. King has never done anything on the road and Klindt has never ridden at No.1 They've all got faults plus there are 4 play-off spots up for grabs and who knows when the season is coming to an end Buster might be able to get a No.1 in for the last few meetings if we manage to take a play-off spot that's if we don't have one at the start of the season. Only top two that's reliable are King's Lynn & Swindon's. Everyone else it's a level playing field. All will score well at home but away from home they could easily be beaten by the home team's engine room on a consistent basis. Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 9 hours ago, bloom89 said: Jordan Stewart has signed for Swindon. I did mean josh pickering, usually get the 2 mixed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Rockstar99 said: Depends which way you're looking at it. Did Broc Nicol have multiple offers. If he did has CVS snapped him up now so he can use Nicol in future seasons too. Instead of letting him sign elsewhere and possibly missing out on the chance of signing him in years to come? I think it's a signing that is looking ahead more than just the 2020 season. I think CVS has a plan in place where he wants Becker & Nicol to be the No.1 & No.5 at Wolves in a few years so he didn't want to run the risk of Nicol going elsewhere so he was prepared to build 2.00 points under the limit. I honestly don't see this as a crazy move. I think it could work out very well. Very shrewd forward thinking business decision imo. I still think it’s a decent side, but could have been better by using the extra 2 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 3:09 PM, Flappy said: Tungate and Hans average what they do for a reason. It's not just don't to injury. They are going to have good days and bad days It's a big year for Andersen, could possibly be make or break. Last season was a long way below his best which has been really consistent. But every time he got going he was injured again. Maybe he came back too soon from a couple of big crashes. He was riding a week after making a new hole in the back straight fence. If he can get back to anywhere near his best he is a steal on his current average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mark said: It's a big year for Andersen, could possibly be make or break. Last season was a long way below his best which has been really consistent. But every time he got going he was injured again. Maybe he came back too soon from a couple of big crashes. He was riding a week after making a new hole in the back straight fence. If he can get back to anywhere near his best he is a steal on his current average. Hans had some massive crashes last year which would take most riders a long time to get over, in fact some would say he was lucky to be able ride again.He is a rider who wears his heart on his sleeve and gives everything for his club so i would expect a big improvement on his current average after a bad year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 No problem with signing Hans but he or Tungate should not be at one or five Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Flappy said: No problem with signing Hans but he or Tungate should not be at one or five The problem with Tungate is that he isn't going to improve his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 3:09 PM, Flappy said: Tungate and Hans average what they do for a reason. It's not just don't to injury. They are going to have good days and bad days With an injury free season, I think Hans can average 6.5 to 7. Most riders in that bracket have them. I would of had Hans at Lynn on his average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: With an injury free season, I think Hans can average 6.5 to 7. Most riders in that bracket have them. I would of had Hans at Lynn on his average. At 1 or 5 would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 He’s not going to be anybody’s 1 or 5 on 5.79. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bagpuss said: He’s not going to be anybody’s 1 or 5 on 5.79. People keep saying Hans will be one of our heat leaders Edited December 26, 2019 by Flappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Flappy said: People keep saying Hans will be on of our heat leaders I would imagine he will be a second string on that figure and if he has an injury free season he is likely to be a bloody good one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, Flappy said: People keep saying Hans will be on of our heat leaders Some people just talk nonsense ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Tungate second to Jack Holder in Kurri Kurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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