Steve Shovlar Posted September 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just got back. Horrible journey in the rain and gales. Here’s a little rant, mostly aimed at underperforming Poole riders. A frustrating couple of meetings. Poole were are far superior side but luck and a bad attitude played their part to even things up. The short and sharp rain shower just before the first leg allowed Ipswich the opportunity they took this evening. I believe if the track hadn’t got the heavy downpour we would have won by 20 plus points and would have got away with it tonight. But an EF for Covatti in heat one when well clear, plus him losing a steel shoe latter, was unfortunate for us. Add to that the attitude of Holder and Kurtz and we were always going to come unstuck in the later heats. We had no cover.Our two reserves were actually worse than useless tonight. Both Wells and Jonasson, together with Holder and Kurtz, couldn’t handle a track which had been doctored, (which the home team are entitled to do)and basically gave up. They didn’t want to know. Nicolai Klindt, Josh Gracjzonek and Nico Covatti did all they could and should be praised for their efforts. Yes the track was diabolical with Iversen far from happy but they got on with it. Kurtz and Holder have let their club down, their team mates down and the Poole fans down. I am pretty sure Middlo is pissed off with them right now and so will be Matt Ford, who has just lost a big payday due to these big girls blouses. It was an abject, dismal performance and not of a standard we expect from our team. Where was the passion from our “top two?” Sure Ipswich got lucky in the first leg with the weather, but we should have managed to defend against a team, with due respect, who are not as strong. I hope next season sees the return of Klindt, Gracjzonek and Covatti. Those three have battled all season for the cause. The same cannot be said of the other two, who IMO haven’t shown the right attitude when it matters. When is the last time we have seen Kurtz actually battle through? Not this season. Holder? The same. This seasons Poole team has been the weakest I have known for years. How on Earth we finished top is anyones guess. Well done to Ipswich in making the final. I don’t think you will stand a chance against either Wolves or Swindon but at least you are in it. And that’s what counts. Congrats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, proud panther said: Starry, no offence, but one minute you can't afford to go to Ipswich, & now it appears you have managed to find the funds to go to Rome with Shovvy !!!!!!!!! I am actually off for a weeks flying in Bassano Del Grappa. Flying to Venice in a couple of weeks time, the train up to the alps. Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Really worried about Holders toe, just hope he will be able to toe the line again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Muddlo at a loss again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Shovlar you state that the track was diabolical, but if your riders attack the track with the right attitude they would be able to ride it. Your two young aussie tarts are used to flat out slick European tracks and can't handle a track you have to use your throttle on. Did you speak to Niels to ask him if he was unhappy about the track? I question whether you are a far superior team to Ipswich as you have to have the right attitude to be that and Poole were found wanting in that tonight. Even you state in your post that Kurtz & Holder haven't battled through all season. You say that Ipswich were lucky with the weather before the first leg, nobody knows what the score would've been if it had been fine, you think 20 points but this is speedway and any thing can happen. You can't go on previous meetings as tonight proved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Glug ,Glug Glug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebv Posted September 29, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, ruckerroo said: Starman will be along in about 8 weeks ... I fear it may be even longer than that.. I believe he is currently in Poole General holding a bed side vigil for Jack Holder... The diagnosis isn't good either.. A specialist was heard to say to one of the nurses that one of Jack's toes had "gone to market", whilst one had "stayed at home", another had seemingly had "roast beef", whilst another toe sadly "had none"... Most worrying though was that it is believed that the smallest of Jack's toes had gone "wee, wee, wee, wee, all the way home"!!!! Edited September 29, 2019 by mikebv 7 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, mikebv said: I A specialist was heard to say to one of the nurses that one of Jack's toes had "gone to market", whilst one had "stayed at home", another had seemingly had "roast beef", but another toe had "had none"... Most worrying though was that it is believed that the smallest of Jack's toes had gone "wee, wee, wee, wee, all the way home"!!!! I've not heard that since i was about 5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyson66 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Congratulations to Ipswich on reaching the final , hopefully you win it now , mind you anyone but Poole Pirates is fine with me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Congrats to Ipswich, should have wrapped it up in first leg, and well done to Poole, finishing top, but ending the season with nuffink. Holder let them down at Swindon as well. Apart from him their team looks good. Just need 1 or 2 Brits. The Witches could surprise Swindon or Wolves as well. Edited September 29, 2019 by auntie doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 I wrote Ipswich off before a wheel was turned at the start of the season because on paper the team looked shockingly poor. Last night (and this season) showed that matches aren’t won on paper. What is required is grit and determination and the witches had that by the bucket load and fully deserve their place in the final. On paper, they will be the underdogs again but as Poole found out to their cost, you can never write them off. Whether they do win or not, the Witches can be proud that they proved the doubters wrong (myself included). Now to the other semis and who will meet the witches in the final. I think either team are capable of winning and hopefully they show the same passion as the Witches. #COYR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Congratulations to Ipswich and I hope they go on to win the Play-Off Final. But it still seems crazy that a team that finished 4th in the league could possibly go down in the history books as league champions. As I said, I do want Ipswich to win the Play-off final, but to me, Poole are league champions this year, not Ipswich, Swindon or Wolverhampton, they should be separate competitions. I thought a couple of races were quite good, but what a terrible track for overtaking on, other than if someone makes a mistake, but sadly, to many tracks are like that these days. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 hours ago, iwright71 said: We don't have to watch this again in the Final do we ? Can we not use the stadium replacement rule and get a leg of the Grand Final at the National Speedway Stadium so we at least see some speedway racing in the play offs instead of a gating tournament. Lets be honest if it hadn't been close tonight who would have switched off tonight after 4 heats. As someone who doesn't support either team or have a perverse affliction to Poole getting stuffed it was an absolute bore fest. Still those protectionists out there will tell me the racing is better than ever ! . No secret to why attendances drop year on year and the sport slowly dies It's been said for years that the rocket ship equipment doesn't suit the tracks over here. If they were all like the NNS then they would be OK. Add the equipment to the fact that the attitude and track craft of some appears to only suit full throttle and hang on for dear life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Ipswich has never been a great passing track, Chris Louis really ought to get it sorted .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 hours ago, cowboycookfan said: Special mention to @presenter for the most Witches warcries in a match. I think John Earrey would have been proud. John Earrey, a legend at the White City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Sometimes in speedway its teamwork and commitment that counts more than ability and higher averages , last night both counted in spades 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Trees said: Ipswich has never been a great passing track, Chris Louis really ought to get it sorted .... The track was massively widened in 2010 and both bends have been adjusted since. So it’s a tad unfair as they have tried. We are a bit limited as we don’t own the stadium and further banking cannot be added due to the stock car track. When it’s stock cars and the fence is removed the cars cannot have a big kerb as the use the speedway track as a run off area 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Asking where someone is, is not bullying. Trying to isolate someone is.(which ganging up often leads to). I just don't agree with what Gavan says and say so. But if he or anyone else thinks I have bullied him I will apologise, not my intention! Gavin talks a lot more sense than you do most of the time 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Just got back. Horrible journey in the rain and gales. Here’s a little rant, mostly aimed at underperforming Poole riders. A frustrating couple of meetings. Poole were are far superior side but luck and a bad attitude played their part to even things up. The short and sharp rain shower just before the first leg allowed Ipswich the opportunity they took this evening. I believe if the track hadn’t got the heavy downpour we would have won by 20 plus points and would have got away with it tonight. But an EF for Covatti in heat one when well clear, plus him losing a steel shoe latter, was unfortunate for us. Add to that the attitude of Holder and Kurtz and we were always going to come unstuck in the later heats. We had no cover.Our two reserves were actually worse than useless tonight. Both Wells and Jonasson, together with Holder and Kurtz, couldn’t handle a track which had been doctored, (which the home team are entitled to do)and basically gave up. They didn’t want to know. Nicolai Klindt, Josh Gracjzonek and Nico Covatti did all they could and should be praised for their efforts. Yes the track was diabolical with Iversen far from happy but they got on with it. Kurtz and Holder have let their club down, their team mates down and the Poole fans down. I am pretty sure Middlo is pissed off with them right now and so will be Matt Ford, who has just lost a big payday due to these big girls blouses. It was an abject, dismal performance and not of a standard we expect from our team. Where was the passion from our “top two?” Sure Ipswich got lucky in the first leg with the weather, but we should have managed to defend against a team, with due respect, who are not as strong. I hope next season sees the return of Klindt, Gracjzonek and Covatti. Those three have battled all season for the cause. The same cannot be said of the other two, who IMO haven’t shown the right attitude when it matters. When is the last time we have seen Kurtz actually battle through? Not this season. Holder? The same. This seasons Poole team has been the weakest I have known for years. How on Earth we finished top is anyones guess. Well done to Ipswich in making the final. I don’t think you will stand a chance against either Wolves or Swindon but at least you are in it. And that’s what counts. Congrats. As is often quoted the other way...... Chomp chomp chomp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiqueSteve Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Best night of speedway for a long time...everyone wrote us off Even Poole playing their IRR trick couldn't stop us Doesn't really matter what happens in the final...we got there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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