OML Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 hours ago, NeilWatson said: A Championship fixture should take priority over an NDL fixture at any time, regardless of when it was arranged. However it appears that this season an unwritten addition to Art 16.1 applies - 'the more important fixture shall take priority'. That is subjective, but might be seen as commonsense. The precedent was set when Richard Lawson rode for Ipswich last Saturday so the Danny Phillips decision followed that precedent. So should we expect Charles Wright to be riding for Peterborough next Sunday instead of Redcar, even though they shouldn't be riding on a Sunday (just like Ipswich shouldn't have been racing on a Saturday)? Or will this be another example of implementing the rule that doesn't exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, OML said: So should we expect Charles Wright to be riding for Peterborough next Sunday instead of Redcar, even though they shouldn't be riding on a Sunday (just like Ipswich shouldn't have been racing on a Saturday)? Or will this be another example of implementing the rule that doesn't exist? Charles Wright ( and Ulrich Ostergaard) should be quite straightforward - riding in the KO Cup Final is in accordance with the Regulations and the ‘more important’ meeting..... Edited October 5, 2019 by NeilWatson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceslider Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 18 hours ago, bloom89 said: Sorry! Was only reporting what I’d seen my bad. No need to apologise but thanks anyway. As a NUFC supporter, I am well conditioned to disappointments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 1:24 PM, soupy said: I gathered that and as it was a nothing meeting and had to be ridden to get the fixture in.It just shows a disregard to the paying customer again. The paying customer has the choice to not go. Have never understood people going to a speedway meeting when there has been loads of rain and then complaining that the track was wet or it doesn’t go the distance. 15 hours ago, OML said: So should we expect Charles Wright to be riding for Peterborough next Sunday instead of Redcar, even though they shouldn't be riding on a Sunday (just like Ipswich shouldn't have been racing on a Saturday)? Or will this be another example of implementing the rule that doesn't exist? Pretty straightforward if one is a meaningful fixture and the other a dead rubber. Common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: The paying customer has the choice to not go. Have never understood people going to a speedway meeting when there has been loads of rain and then complaining that the track was wet or it doesn’t go the distance. I totally agree that you do not have to go but do you not think crowds are bad enough without support.Eventually will be no choice as it will be all done and dusted and tracks will close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 22 hours ago, NeilWatson said: Art 16.1 of the Speedway Regulations states: Fixtures shall take priority as follows: FIM Speedway Grand Prix Speedway Of Nations Speedway Grand Prix Qualifying Meetings FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings FIM Speedway European Championship FIM Europe U21 Championship British Championships (Senior, Junior) BSPA Shared and Fee EventsOfficial Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League. (my emphasis) NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above. A Championship fixture should take priority over an NDL fixture at any time, regardless of when it was arranged. However it appears that this season an unwritten addition to Art 16.1 applies - 'the more important fixture shall take priority'. That is subjective, but might be seen as commonsense. The precedent was set when Richard Lawson rode for Ipswich last Saturday so the Danny Phillips decision followed that precedent. What should happen is that a 'Supplementary Regulation' be issued by the SCB clarifying that Play-Off fixtures take priority over other fixtures - if that has been done it doesn't yet appear on the SCB website. Yes but:- 16.1.1 Priority will be given to riders participating in the SGB Premiership League on Mondays and Thursdays. Priority will be given to riders participating in the SGB Championship League on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. The regulation is in bold. So it seems that it's a case of "we know what the regulations says but if you shout loud enough we'll conveniently ignore it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, leander said: Yes but:- 16.1.1 Priority will be given to riders participating in the SGB Premiership League on Mondays and Thursdays. Priority will be given to riders participating in the SGB Championship League on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. The regulation is in bold. So it seems that it's a case of "we know what the regulations says but if you shout loud enough we'll conveniently ignore it for you. 16.1.1 is in bold simply because it is a new regulation for 2019. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: 16.1.1 is in bold simply because it is a new regulation for 2019. What about the new rules that aren't in the book yet, do they just leave that bit blank ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June01 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Can anyone tell me why Nicol in heat 3 and Pickering in heat 12 went off 15 metres at this meeting please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, June01 said: Can anyone tell me why Nicol in heat 3 and Pickering in heat 12 went off 15 metres at this meeting please? Obviously touched the tapes or got excluded/ disqualified for time allowance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June01 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Heedthebaw said: Obviously touched the tapes or got excluded/ disqualified for time allowance Which? And you forgot anticipating the start. Edited January 19, 2020 by June01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) On 1/18/2020 at 9:39 PM, June01 said: Can anyone tell me why Nicol in heat 3 and Pickering in heat 12 went off 15 metres at this meeting please? Both missed the two minutes: http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/19results/edinburgh_04.10.19_res.pdf Edited January 20, 2020 by StevePark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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