NeilWatson Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Totally agree. But what would the punishment be? A 28 day ban throughout November?! Difficult to ‘force’ a rider to appear in the NDLRC, somewhat easier to prevent him appearing elsewhere the same day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Totally agree. But what would the punishment be? A 28 day ban throughout November?! The punishment is in Art 19.7.4. The rider(s) concerned must miss the next two home meetings for their clubs. Whether that is just their NDL clubs or their Championship clubs isn't clarified. It is also up to the director's discretion. If they were to be given 28 day bans then any unserved days by the 31 October would be carried forward to the beginning of next season. I would think there will be some serious discussion this week as Newcastle will certainly want Max Clegg and Danny Phillips to be riding at Newcastle next Sunday in their KOC final. The problem is both fixtures are re-arranged matches from their original dates. The BSPA/SCB have history in disregarding the the regs (in the interest of the sport) in such cases. Personally I hope they are both at Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 All these late season problems are so avoidable if clubs made better use of the summer months...Speedway must get its house in order the fans are sick of the incompetent running of the sport.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 hours ago, waco said: All these late season problems are so avoidable if clubs made better use of the summer months...Speedway must get its house in order the fans are sick of the incompetent running of the sport.... It will be the same next year I would think... And the same the year after that. . And the one after that. . And the etc etc etc.. Incredible really isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Given the NDL play off has been pushed back until the 21st i ca imagine there a couple of Kent & Leicester riders who don't fancy two important meetings back to back & i would imagine a couple of nervous promotions / managers. Get ready to update the list of comedy excuses...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Given the NDL play off has been pushed back until the 21st i ca imagine there a couple of Kent & Leicester riders who don't fancy two important meetings back to back & i would imagine a couple of nervous promotions / managers. Get ready to update the list of comedy excuses...... Notwithstanding that some riders MAY (or not) be given to miss the meeting in order to ride for their championship clubs, the only way a rider can miss the NLRC and ride on the monday is if he has a speedway injury. i.e. one that occurred during a meeting. Any other excuse, for example illness, bad back lifting bike into van, is classed as a non speedway injury/illness and results in an immediate 8 day ban. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, leander said: Notwithstanding that some riders MAY (or not) be given to miss the meeting in order to ride for their championship clubs, the only way a rider can miss the NLRC and ride on the monday is if he has a speedway injury. i.e. one that occurred during a meeting. Any other excuse, for example illness, bad back lifting bike into van, is classed as a non speedway injury/illness and results in an immediate 8 day ban. Whilst i whole-heartedly agree in a sport that has seen riders miss meetings due to transport issues, pre-arranged family dinners, family cycling holidays and multiple other allergic reactions to travelling to tracks that they are just not keen on i shall await the final line up with baited breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 I believe the punishment for missing the NLRC is actually a 2 home meeting ban. (How that works for someone doubling up I am not sure, but assume it would only affect his NL club) For me what I would like to see is the cream of the NL riding in front of a big crowd in decent weather. My suggestion is hold it at Swindon or Somerset the sunday after the Cardiff GP, what are peoples thoughts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 It was originally due at Leicester the day after the GP!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 So the BSPA rules that Clegg must ride for Newcastle and not at the NLRC despite their own rule book saying he should be at the NLRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Islander15 said: So the BSPA rules that Clegg must ride for Newcastle and not at the NLRC despite their own rule book saying he should be at the NLRC Ah yes but the BSPA seem to think play offs and cup finals are above the rule of law( or regulation ). curious to know where this info can be found though. (Not the rule, the fact that Max is riding at Newcastle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, leander said: Ah yes but the BSPA seem to think play offs and cup finals are above the rule of law( or regulation ). curious to know where this info can be found though. (Not the rule, the fact that Max is riding at Newcastle) It’s on the cradley twitter feed that jack smith is replacing max because he’s riding for Newcastle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Islander15 said: So the BSPA rules that Clegg must ride for Newcastle and not at the NLRC despite their own rule book saying he should be at the NLRC 26 minutes ago, leander said: Ah yes but the BSPA seem to think play offs and cup finals are above the rule of law( or regulation ). curious to know where this info can be found though. (Not the rule, the fact that Max is riding at Newcastle) 9 minutes ago, bigred said: It’s on the cradley twitter feed that jack smith is replacing max because he’s riding for Newcastle. What difference twelve months makes... Last season the Peterborough v Lakeside Championship Shield semi-Final was on the same day as the NDLRC; on that occasion Ben Morley and Alfie Bowtell were required to race at Leicester in the NDLRC in accordance with the rulebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, bigred said: It’s on the cradley twitter feed that jack smith is replacing max because he’s riding for Newcastle. Thank you. I don't do TWITter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Islander15 said: So the BSPA rules that Clegg must ride for Newcastle and not at the NLRC despite their own rule book saying he should be at the NLRC Never really expected anything else, never expected Lawson not to ride for Ipswich instead of Eastie and this case with Clegg. I'd bet if there's still 3 leagues next year the rules will be made simpler, the higher league will have first option on any rider in any competition throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Speedway is becoming a complete joke in this country...Clegg had a very good chance of becoming National League champion,,,or a bit part player elsewhere Edited October 15, 2019 by waco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 hours ago, BuxtonTiger said: It was originally due at Leicester the day after the GP!!!!! Great for all the fans heading north. Swindon or Somerset would mean people going no more the 45 mins iut of thier way. Works for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Are the riders being paid according to where they finish in the Final ie or are they receiving points money ?, I have also heard they wont be getting Travel money nor a Tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, greyhoundp said: Are the riders being paid according to where they finish in the Final ie or are they receiving points money ?, I have also heard they wont be getting Travel money nor a Tyre. Each rider will get a tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) On 15 October 2019 at 5:01 PM, NeilWatson said: What difference twelve months makes... Last season the Peterborough v Lakeside Championship Shield semi-Final was on the same day as the NDLRC; on that occasion Ben Morley and Alfie Bowtell were required to race at Leicester in the NDLRC in accordance with the rulebook. You can see why some may fans simply "give up" can't you? We now have Kyle Bickley possibly missing the NL KO Cup Final as it's been arranged on the same night as a GB International match.. And the Championship Final will no doubt have a guest farce written into its contract somewhere along the line.. Lets be honest, if the supposed prestigious, showpiece events are treated (by those who run them), with such a lack of respect, why then should the fan base bother with them and attend? Sometimes you do actually feel that some one is possibly conducting a top level governmental experiment in the background, trying at every corner to undermine it with the most ridiculous decision making imaginable to see how far it can be stretched before breaking.. Or maybe it's a bunch of rabid environmentalists involved who just want the sport closed down on noise pollution grounds or because of the global air miles pollution footprint so many riders infest on the world? Or powerful property investers who want all tracks becoming housing estates? My own personal belief (and only rational conclusion I can make given what constantly goes on), is that "Dr Evil" from Austin Powers is actually in overall charge, has brainwashed everyone within UK Speedway, and is sat in his lair making up the most far fetched scenarios his warped mind could conceive, laughing hysterically and manically to himself as they all get endorsed and used by everyone involved within the sport who are trapped under his mind spells.. "When should we run the Championship Grand Final Dr Evil" "On the same night as the NLRC"!... "But that will mean riders needing to be in two places at the same time, and some will have to miss the final, making the meeting completely devalued. Many people will simply decide not to go and watch it".... "I know"!!! "Bwa ha" "Bwa ha, ha ha" "Bwa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha" etc etc etc.. It does shoot itself in the foot so many times, year in year out, with self created issues that it has to be more than just coincidence surely? With the biggest frustration being for the fans of course, just how good it all could be if it was just organised well... Edited October 16, 2019 by mikebv 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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