HGould Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Yes. The track at the car circuit wasn't ideal for speedway by any stretch of the imagination. But it was a catalyst to get things going, and led the great Ken Moss to building the Buxton speedway track. Of course Buxton speedway itself wasn't perfect, but it's been a brilliant place for a huge number of riders to learn their craft, and a more than valuable part of the 3rd division for many many years. It needs to be back in the NL for 2020. The authorities should be working with the Buxton promoters to ensure that Buxton doesn't stand idle next year. The tight ship Jane Moss ran would may be only need 50 diehards from Stoke and a bit of sponsorship to make it viable as a combined venture. If all other NDL Clubs could then be persuaded to stay in NDL and possibly add Rye House then you have a League and any NDL right now is to be welcomed. I know Brummies are committed to CL for 2020 but what about a few other clubs rumoured to be struggling in CL or ex NDL Clubs moving back? Have likes of Newcastle and Eastbourne committed to CL yet? Let's not give up on NDL! It's the future after all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: Kerr and Newman signed - obviously going very top heavy if they are going NDL I'm 99.9% sure like you that will happen and we won't be in the NL, but there was a proviso that the league structure would need to be the same? Edited October 9, 2019 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Never understood why teams sign (and more so announce riders before the age and rules are finalised etc) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, TurnTwo said: Never understood why teams sign (and more so announce riders before the age and rules are finalised etc) Yep completely nuts. Do unofficial deals behind closed doors sure but public released riders is a little bonkers. Cynical other promoters could conspire against a strong early team build and set the rules accordingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Yep completely nuts. Do unofficial deals behind closed doors sure but public released riders is a little bonkers. Cynical other promoters could conspire against a strong early team build and set the rules accordingly. Sure that has been done in the past when a team looks to be the making of good one. Bargain reserves, especially the new 2 pointers are the only ones the ambitious teams will and should sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 23 hours ago, cityrebel said: I only saw speedway once in the car stadium. Short straights and tight turns, not a track for the faint hearted! The first Buxton track was absolutely appalling.....fortunately it was short lived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, gazzac said: Sure that has been done in the past when a team looks to be the making of good one. Bargain reserves, especially the new 2 pointers are the only ones the ambitious teams will and should sign up. not ndl but think brummies have 5-6 signed and pretty much announced (at our end of season bash) last week. i think in social media age it's more of a hands off warning and waiting until after agm can be too late. of course if you announce and then change league or promotion you do look a bit daft! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 I remember Kent having built a team a few seasons ago and announced Luke Clifton among others in advance. When the agm happened and the points limit was lower than Len expected it meant that James Shanes was frozen out of the side as his average didn't quite fit. Had it not been announced in advance Clifton would have been quietly released Shanes signed with another 3.00 rider an potentially trophies at Kent before now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: I remember Kent having built a team a few seasons ago and announced Luke Clifton among others in advance. When the agm happened and the points limit was lower than Len expected it meant that James Shanes was frozen out of the side as his average didn't quite fit. Had it not been announced in advance Clifton would have been quietly released Shanes signed with another 3.00 rider an potentially trophies at Kent before now. Yes that definitely happened cos didn’t they have Ayres and Stoneman that year or something? But then the average limit dropped lower than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Islander15 said: Yes that definitely happened cos didn’t they have Ayres and Stoneman that year or something? But then the average limit dropped lower than expected. Thats the one. Hopwood already signed but not announced, Bowen & Clifton announced the the limit was lower than expected so neither Ayres or Shanes would fit and Stoneman was included rather than Ayres/Shanes and a 3 pointer . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Thats the one. Hopwood already signed but not announced, Bowen & Clifton announced the the limit was lower than expected so neither Ayres or Shanes would fit and Stoneman was included rather than Ayres/Shanes and a 3 pointer . Yeah and Hopwood & Clifton were on low averages and Silver loves Bowen so they weren’t leaving. It’s almost like other promoters thought the prospective team would’ve been too good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Bit like Rob ledwith coming in on a 3.5 gsa lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 10:10 AM, HGould said: not ndl but think brummies have 5-6 signed and pretty much announced (at our end of season bash) last week. i think in social media age it's more of a hands off warning and waiting until after agm can be too late. of course if you announce and then change league or promotion you do look a bit daft! Who are the 5-6 then in your opinion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Who are the 5-6 then in your opinion ? I think most of the team that finished the season with a change in reserve (Kemp or Stoneman) and a change at 1 (Adam will do Denmark) coming in I would punt one of the veterans either Scotty or Bomber - Scotty to get a midweek track to make TV easier on a Saturday or Bomber to get nearer to his new base in East Midlands/Anglia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Substantiated rumours tonight that Kent will join the top flight. There’s going to be no team s left at this rate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipper11 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Substantiated rumours tonight that Kent will join the top flight. There’s going to be no team s left at this rate Kent NL & Prem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, flipper11 said: Kent NL & Prem. Hope so. Gives meaningful fixtures and allows Len his weekly meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 hours ago, flipper11 said: Kent NL & Prem. Why would a wily old campaigner like Len Silver who has had considerable experience in recent years at CL/NL level suddenly decide to go Premiership, with the various restrictions he has with the stadium usage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipper11 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Why would a wily old campaigner like Len Silver who has had considerable experience in recent years at CL/NL level suddenly decide to go Premiership, with the various restrictions he has with the stadium usage? Good question. I can make a couple of guesses for you. The expenses of PL v CL are not massively more. There are more southern based teams in PL v CL so maybe more interest from away supporters to travel, of course this may change if Berwick & Sheffield go up as well. Most importantly I think it may give Kent more leverage with the planners to extend the curfew if there is top flight racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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