RobMcCaffery Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly an interesting addition and does offer up a way of rider development without the huge rush to jump on a full 500cc bike. That said the 250 class in the UK is shrinking at an alarming rate with the new in favour choice to jump straight from 125 to 500! That said multiple races of the same 4 riders could become quite predictable but the concept is sound Didn't the NJL here have 250cc heats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Didn't the NJL here have 250cc heats? They do and very well it's working too towards rider development SDL/MDL more older riders and may be 250cc races and 500cc races included in same match are way to go for MDL SDL and even National Development League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Didn't the NJL here have 250cc heats? Im pretty sure they ran 500's & 125's. It was mooted to include 250 heats in the MDL a year or so ago but there was a shortage of available riders even then. A quick look at the youth rounds this year shows 8 riders as the best entry in the class and that included the unfortunate Sam Norris, Sam Peters & Eli Meadows who were all riding 500 machines already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly an interesting addition and does offer up a way of rider development without the huge rush to jump on a full 500cc bike. That said the 250 class in the UK is shrinking at an alarming rate with the new in favour choice to jump straight from 125 to 500! That said multiple races of the same 4 riders could become quite predictable but the concept is sound It is in my experience, as you say very predictable. Good in theory, but in practice the best rider generally wins all the heats, the 2nd best comes 2nd most of the time and the 3rd comes 3rd... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, iris123 said: It is in my experience, as you say very predictable. Good in theory, but in practice the best rider generally wins all the heats, the 2nd best comes 2nd most of the time and the 3rd comes 3rd... Yes and that’s the big problem with adding them to a competitive league: fans won’t pay to watch predictable follow the leader races. They want results but they also want entertainment, especially when the league would be seriously diluted to bring in 250cc racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 9:32 AM, TurnTwo said: Ten teams prem & ten teams championship with Glasgow, Sheffield, Leicester and Somerset moving up Peterborough moving down. Plymouth & Kent moving into the championship. With the chance of one other club to join. Cubs, Heathens, potters I doubt will continue. With 3 teams moving up and 3 teams not continuing. NL is left with 3/4 teams if rye house come back leaving a glorified mdl type league. British speedway is not in a good way Leicester will definitely not be moving up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 An 8 team Premiership & 10 or 12 team Championship with a 6 team NDL is a must & the promoters must be getting their heads together at pre AGM meetings at Rugby to ensure this happens. We now have more young lads coming through & they still need to develop & refine their skills at the right level. Some of them will require 2 league racing & the PL is a step too far for most. Kemp, Flint, Bickley, Palin, Thompson twins, Gilkes, Kinsley, Edwards, McGurk, Mulford are just a few that, in a couple more years, could be PL 2nd strings. Do not destroy these young lads at an early age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: An 8 team Premiership & 10 or 12 team Championship with a 6 team NDL is a must & the promoters must be getting their heads together at pre AGM meetings at Rugby to ensure this happens. We now have more young lads coming through & they still need to develop & refine their skills at the right level. Some of them will require 2 league racing & the PL is a step too far for most. Kemp, Flint, Bickley, Palin, Thompson twins, Gilkes, Kinsley, Edwards, McGurk, Mulford are just a few that, in a couple more years, could be PL 2nd strings. Do not destroy these young lads at an early age I wouldn’t be surprised if we only saw 3 or maybe 4 of those at this level next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 There also needs to be some thought put into how strong the CL should be. We have seen young riders move up from the NL and then call it a day when they struggle and ultimately disillusioned with the sport having put in the miles to get so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 It's a shame Buxton and Stoke can't merge together in some sort of capacity and get both clubs on the go again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary67 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Plenty of keyboard warriors on this forum could do it.. They all know how to prepare a track, great at team selection and know everything there is to know about speedway so shouldn't be a problem for them. Oh yeah and money. Ah well. All good to put the knife in Dave and his team at Stoke but if it wasn't for him it'd gone a long long time ago. Come on keyboard warriors put your money where your big mouths are and show everyone how to do it. Speedway makes loads of money don't you know. BTW, you won't be able to make the shortfall with stocks at Buxton lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gary67 said: Plenty of keyboard warriors on this forum could do it.. They all know how to prepare a track, great at team selection and know everything there is to know about speedway so shouldn't be a problem for them. Oh yeah and money. Ah well. All good to put the knife in Dave and his team at Stoke but if it wasn't for him it'd gone a long long time ago. Come on keyboard warriors put your money where your big mouths are and show everyone how to do it. Speedway makes loads of money don't you know. BTW, you won't be able to make the shortfall with stocks at Buxton lol. The car racing oval at Buxton - near the speedway circuit - did at one time also feature speedway. The car circuit caters for several major events each season. https://buxtonraceway.com Edited October 6, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gary67 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 14 hours ago, gustix said: The car racing oval at Buxton - near the speedway circuit - did at one time also feature speedway. The car circuit caters for several major events each season. https://buxtonraceway.com Brilliant, you have the money to buy that as well (separate entity to the speedway of course). Crack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 22 hours ago, gustix said: The car racing oval at Buxton - near the speedway circuit - did at one time also feature speedway. The car circuit caters for several major events each season. https://buxtonraceway.com 8 hours ago, Gary67 said: Brilliant, you have the money to buy that as well (separate entity to the speedway of course). Crack on. I cannot understand the logic of your comment Gary67. I merely illustrated that the Buxton car circuit appears to be flourishing while sadly the reverse appear to be the case for the neighbouring speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 1:09 AM, Gary67 said: Plenty of keyboard warriors on this forum could do it.. They all know how to prepare a track, great at team selection and know everything there is to know about speedway so shouldn't be a problem for them. Oh yeah and money. Ah well. All good to put the knife in Dave and his team at Stoke but if it wasn't for him it'd gone a long long time ago. Come on keyboard warriors put your money where your big mouths are and show everyone how to do it. Speedway makes loads of money don't you know. BTW, you won't be able to make the shortfall with stocks at Buxton lol. Not entirely sure who rattled your cage (although at 1am i can hazard a guess). Every keyboard warrior on here is sad to see Stoke be closed down and likewise when the same happened at Buxton. It doesn't mean that if anyone had the money and the passion they would want to be involved with either venture. I personally think that Buxton could run on a shoestring as part of its charm is the rustic nature of the place, that said there is still a fair amount of investment needed before a wheel could be turned in anger. That said im sure you will be at the from of the queue Gary when it comes to offering your assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 Thank you previous Posters. I now fully understand the current situation in regard to Buxton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 8:17 AM, gustix said: The car racing oval at Buxton - near the speedway circuit - did at one time also feature speedway. The car circuit caters for several major events each season. https://buxtonraceway.com Believe it or not Matthew Watson the promoter of Buxton raceway has recently posted on ovalchat that despite its rural location even they have had noise complaints and may face more restrictions on running times. I cant help feel it's probably more to do with thier new floodlights then noise though tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I only saw speedway once in the car stadium. Short straights and tight turns, not a track for the faint hearted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, cityrebel said: I only saw speedway once in the car stadium. Short straights and tight turns, not a track for the faint hearted! Yes. The track at the car circuit wasn't ideal for speedway by any stretch of the imagination. But it was a catalyst to get things going, and led the great Ken Moss to building the Buxton speedway track. Of course Buxton speedway itself wasn't perfect, but it's been a brilliant place for a huge number of riders to learn their craft, and a more than valuable part of the 3rd division for many many years. It needs to be back in the NL for 2020. The authorities should be working with the Buxton promoters to ensure that Buxton doesn't stand idle next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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