GWC Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, cityrebel said: The track itself looked fine on sunday, far better than the one line concrete bowl BMR served up every meeting. I was told that the stuff dumped on the centre green is in fact contaminated waste. If this is the case, how much would it cost to clear and make good, any ideas. Probably means it will be there (the waste) for a while yet as depends on what’s in it. Building waste including asbestos would be very expensive to remove. Do you know who the person is running the show now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, GWC said: Probably means it will be there (the waste) for a while yet as depends on what’s in it. Building waste including asbestos would be very expensive to remove. Do you know who the person is running the show now? I don't. The training school and the Dragons are probably dealing with the owners of the Kart circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 23 hours ago, cityrebel said: The track itself looked fine on sunday, far better than the one line concrete bowl BMR served up every meeting. I was told that the stuff dumped on the centre green is in fact contaminated waste. If this is the case, how much would it cost to clear and make good, any ideas. The definition of 'contaminated waste' is fairly wide. The same thing happened at Perry Barr stadium when the track was built in 2007: the soil was said to be 'contaminated' and could not be removed from the site. It was piled up to one side; this is what the embankment by the second bend is. Contrariwise, when I was a child (many years ago ) there was a banking all of the way round the track; this was apparently demolished and sold for hardcore! A long time ago ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) On 12/3/2019 at 6:24 PM, cityrebel said: Demand is where, Rye's crowds have been falling for years. Len never hangs around when a track starts losing money. The BMR honeymoon was enhanced with Lakeside dropping down to the NL, the same season as the Rockets moved up. The Hammers then moved back up and the Rockets were forced into fixed race nights. The writing was on the wall. The disastrous decision by Lakeside to move into Rye all but finished the track off. I applaud the kart people if they are going to revamp the old place. I hope they succeed where BMR failed. When I went to Rye House for one of their first meetings in the Premiership, I was astonished at how many people were there - the place was packed, and I was told that some had been locked out the week before. Knowing just how unwilling speedway fans are to switch support to another team - Coventry to Wolverhampton is the same distance as Purfleet to Hoddesdon, for example - I don't think that huge increase could be even partly explained by Lakeside dropping into the NL. That's also highlighted by just how poor Lakeside's gates at Hoddesdon were - if you're not going to travel to watch your own team, you're surely not going to do it to watch another. What did Rye House - as you have pointed out - was the need to move away from their established race night to midweek meetings (its hit Poole and Sheffield hard too). If they could ride on a Saturday, I'd say its entirely possible the track could support an NL side. After all, it supported a Championship one for years. Edited December 7, 2019 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Halifaxtiger said: When I went to Rye House for one of their first meetings in the Premiership, I was astonished at how many people were there - the place was packed, and I was told that some had been locked out the week before. Knowing just how unwilling speedway fans are to switch support to another team - Coventry to Wolverhampton is the same distance as Purfleet to Hoddesdon, for example - I don't think that huge increase could be even partly explained by Lakeside dropping into the NL. That's also highlighted by just how poor Lakeside's gates at Hoddesdon were - if you're not going to travel to watch your own team, you're surely not going to do it to watch another. What did Rye House - as you have pointed out - was the need to move away from their established race night to midweek meetings (its hit Poole and Sheffield hard too). If they could ride on a Saturday, I'd say its entirely possible the track could support an NL side. After all, it supported a Championship one for years. Top flight racing on a Saturday night, did pull in very good crowds at Rye. A lot of those were not present when the Rockets were in the middle tier. The crowds had really dropped off during Len's last season at Hoddesdon. 'Big' names can still attract the fans, if the race night is favourable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Race night made a big difference to Rye House, for me going there on a weekend is not too much trouble, but during the week I wouldn't want to go anywhere near the A414, M11 or Harlow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Next meeting on Monday... hopefully a full disclosure follows swiftly re NL 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Fingers crossed we come out of monday with a 7 plus team league, sensible points limit, and the continuation of what has been the best breeding ground for young brits in many years. If Mondays conclusion is not favourable how many young brits with have expensive shiny ornaments sat on thier workbench, how much young talent would slip away from the sport. Mondays meeting is genuinely up there as one of the most important meetings for the future of british speedway that there has been for generations. Fingers crossed it all works out well. NL is the lifeblood of speedway in the uk. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 So who are the 7 rumoured teams? 1. Belle Vue 2. Isle of Wight 3. Kent 4. Leicester 5. Mildenhall 6. Plymouth 7. Mystery Team? Who is the rumoured mystery team? Is it Oxford? Or is that too early for them? I don't even know the full situation for them... Maybe money bags Glasgow are going to put a Scottish team into the mix, to develop young Scottish riders (George Rothery, Luke Ruddick, Ryan MacDonald, Leon Flint) Or what about Rye House or Coventry? Presumably the facilities are all still somewhat there? Maybe the Yorkshire Dukes will finally open!! After taking everyone's gofundme money (Including £50 of mine) just not to appear (At Scunthorpe?) What about Buxton returning at their old track, which still holds racing in some form or another and plenty of speedway practice days... Hmmm... Interesting times ahead for the National League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richspeedway Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I think I heard from somewhere it is a Scottish side. Hopefully if the news is good in the new year we will see Oxford again on track. Yorkshire has gone quiet not sure what the latest is with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Full team of Scottish rider's now that's interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Binman said: Full team of Scottish rider's now that's interesting Interesting but hard work for them. Looking forward to the away matches lads at IOW, Kent & Plymouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Dandelion said: Maybe money bags Glasgow are going to put a Scottish team into the mix, to develop young Scottish riders (George Rothery, Luke Ruddick, Ryan MacDonald, Leon Flint) Are those actually Scots? I thought that Rothery was a Cumbrian, and Flint a Nothumbrian. They don't sound Scottish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, *JJ said: Are those actually Scots? I thought that Rothery was a Cumbrian, and Flint a Nothumbrian. They don't sound Scottish! Yeah, but you don’t know Flint’s real Christian name: Skin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, *JJ said: Are those actually Scots? I thought that Rothery was a Cumbrian, and Flint a Nothumbrian. They don't sound Scottish! They're not from Scotland necessarily... But at a youth/amateur level they've been heavily involved with the Scottish scene... Along with the likes of Kevin Whelan (Who's part Filipino) and maybe even Willie Lawson would consider the NL next year as a number 1 for a bunch of young Scots/Adopted Scots The MIllar brothers too (Gregor and Lewis) Edited December 13, 2019 by Dandelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 5:46 PM, Dandelion said: They're not from Scotland necessarily... But at a youth/amateur level they've been heavily involved with the Scottish scene... Along with the likes of Kevin Whelan (Who's part Filipino) and maybe even Willie Lawson would consider the NL next year as a number 1 for a bunch of young Scots/Adopted Scots The MIllar brothers too (Gregor and Lewis) Lawson can’t ride Championship and NL as I understand it as he’s had an average of over four in the second tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Lawson can’t ride Championship and NL as I understand it as he’s had an average of over four in the second tier. Does that preclude Ben Wilson too and Rob Ledwith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 I believe the over 4 average stops you from doubling up between the leagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, DC2 said: Does that preclude Ben Wilson too and Rob Ledwith? Hasn't Ben Wilson retired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 If the 2020 National League is going to be more of a "junior development" league, please use the EL "fast track" format putting riders of similar ability more often should bring them on quicker! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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