Richspeedway Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Saw in this weeks SS Godfrey said there was interest from some clubs at the AGM who like to participate so might see some clubs run a NL side possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 I ve been told by a decent source that they are expecting between 8 and 10 teams in the NL. Not been told who the potential extras are though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJ81 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 CVS is attending the AGM representing Cradley so there is some hope that we will continue, although I wouldn't imagine it's something he could do alone. Wolves will have between 14 and 17 home meetings (I think!) depending on progress in playoffs/supporters cup so there will be a few free Mondays; although as this season there wouldn't be much room for manoeuvre when a few fall foul of the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 I think moving forward hopefully the higher league clubs will all start to have some development side as a feeder. even if neighbour clubs entered a joint side sharing home fixtures. It may cost promoters a little in the short term but looking long term it has to be cheaper to have a pool of local lads ready for the big leagues rather then importing riders. Equally a strongly supported NL gives potential new stand alone clubs a viable league to set out in, which in turn can only strengthen speedway across the board. For the pinicle of the the sport to be stable the foundations need to be solid. I actually think if the BSPA were to get the NL back of a couple of years ago, when it was by far the best the league in the country. Get everything around the National League set up right and then adapt the sport moving up the levels accordingly 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 If we don’t get a decent number of teams in the NL then a lot of those kids being trained at youth level are going to be scratching around for rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 12:46 PM, cityrebel said: I never rated the chip bar at Rye, i always thought it was overrated. Mildenhall have always been the kings of that department. I agree, however I along with a great many others found the Fish Bar at Mildenhall this season very sub-standard, so much so, that a lot of people now buy in the shop in West Row and eating them in their cars before entering the stadium. Can only hope things improve in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybishop Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 4:29 PM, Chris116 said: I have to say that it worries me that we seem to have total silence from the most forward thinking promotion in the National Development League! I just hope that the NDL AGM produces a positive outcome. I only got to two meetings in 2019, both at Smallbrook Stadium to see the Warriors, and both were very entertaining although Warriors suffered a home defeat in the first. If Buxton can return to action that would be a big positive and if Rye House are also able to run it would mean I could see a lot more meetings in 2020. We are still here We are just waiting on the outcome of the AGM which must afford clubs the opportunity to have a proper speedway product which the public will continue to embrace and develop. We will update everyone shortly after the AGM 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 No Cradley Heathens Confirmed on their o/s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Statement on BSPA site says:- NATIONAL Development League clubs attended their AGM at Rugby on Tuesday.The meeting was adjourned until December 16 when clubs should be in a position to finalise their declaration of intent to participate or otherwise.The format of the competition can then also be finalised.We thank everyone for their patience and understanding.British Speedway Promoters' Association. We have a little longer to wait for the news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancarz Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 A solution to the problem might be a return to the format used in 1996(?) when the 3rd division was decided on a percentage basis. Teams could run as many meetings as they wished subject to a minimum number. That would allow the likes of IoW and Plymouth to run every week and the likes of Belle Vue to stage a lower number of meetings if they prefer. Far from ideal but it’s imperative to keep the third tier running. British Speedway will die if there is no third division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jancarz said: A solution to the problem might be a return to the format used in 1996(?) when the 3rd division was decided on a percentage basis. Teams could run as many meetings as they wished subject to a minimum number. That would allow the likes of IoW and Plymouth to run every week and the likes of Belle Vue to stage a lower number of meetings if they prefer. Far from ideal but it’s imperative to keep the third tier running. British Speedway will die if there is no third division. Hear, hear. It's great to win meetings and the league but we must never lose sight of the "Development" dimension of the third tier. If this level were to be lost, what other way do we see for our youngsters to progress through the ranks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Trouble is we now have a chairman of the BSPA who only cares about the present and will only worry about the future come November 2020. A Vice-Chairman who has no interest in junior racing or development and a NL coordinator who will do as he is told. Make of it what you will. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 I think this is the most detached and disappointed I’ve ever felt in regards to the National League. It really does seem like we’ve lost our third tier 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raddog Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 So who turned up ? I heard a few rumours of a couple of pl and cl teams running a nl team . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 The quote from CVS in the Cradley Heathens statement "The aim is to ultimately return the third tier to a junior development league" must be a concern to stand alone Clubs, Yes its all very well for Senior Teams/Clubs who want to produce/find riders at little or no cost to themselves by running in the NL, however racing needs to be competitive otherwise fans simply wont go to watch Junior riders, I suggest the best format is what we have now, with junior leagues at a level below the NL, however the catch 22 situation arises when there are not enough Teams to form a National League without some Senior Teams tracking a Development Team. There is a big difference in standard between NL racing and Junior racing as we know it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, greyhoundp said: The quote from CVS in the Cradley Heathens statement "The aim is to ultimately return the third tier to a junior development league" must be a concern to stand alone Clubs, Yes its all very well for Senior Teams/Clubs who want to produce/find riders at little or no cost to themselves by running in the NL, however racing needs to be competitive otherwise fans simply wont go to watch Junior riders, I suggest the best format is what we have now, with junior leagues at a level below the NL, however the catch 22 situation arises when there are not enough Teams to form a National League without some Senior Teams tracking a Development Team. There is a big difference in standard between NL racing and Junior racing as we know it.. CVS isn't wrong although the difference i standard is splattered across the sport, the CL has 10 & 2 pointers in the same meetings, likewise the NL which is why there is a disparity in standard. Unfortunately the development leagues below have seen a rise in sub standard riders who are happy to use the meetings as practice laps. There are no gradings in these meetings so unfortunately there will be riders close to NL standard racing alongside riders who are barely sliding a bike. Its run and maintained by very helpful and friendly volunteers (who are probably too nice in several instances). I suspect a NDL will be in place but with limited meetings and possibly a strong cap on either team or rider averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 hours ago, JamesHarris said: Trouble is we now have a chairman of the BSPA who only cares about the present and will only worry about the future come November 2020. A Vice-Chairman who has no interest in junior racing or development and a NL coordinator who will do as he is told. Make of it what you will. Sadly very true. Shameful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Not good news, a sign of the times unfortunately. A third tier is definitely vital for British Speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richspeedway Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Hope for positive news on the 16th I see Newcastle are confirmed next season in the CL so wonder if they will still let Plymouth in or if they will stay in the NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 While I share the worries that others have following the announcement which I quoted above, it is possible that things may be a lot rosier than we fear. Maybe some new to NDL tracks were present and having found out how many teams could be in the NDL they have gone away to consider if they can run that many meetings (if they are running NDL as a second team) or to work out how to pad out the fixture list (if they are a new standalone team). The current teams also have the same considerations to think about so it is possible that the meeting was positive but all parties have gone away to consider the best way forward which they did not have time to do on Tuesday. Time for everyone to keep their fingers crossed and hope for a positive outcome. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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