Sings4Speedway Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Spiderman1 said: Yep agree, should of come up with a deal to cover it,not lend,sponser it 1 hour ago, Spiderman1 said: Plenty of sportsman receive it,just not in uk speedway and plenty of speedway riders receive substantial signing on fees pre season (don't know jakes deal specifics) . What other sports that are remotely comparable to speedway would be fronting 20-30k as a guarantee for a season that is far from certain to even happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: and plenty of speedway riders receive substantial signing on fees pre season (don't know jakes deal specifics) . What other sports that are remotely comparable to speedway would be fronting 20-30k as a guarantee for a season that is far from certain to even happen? Any football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Spiderman1 said: Any football What fantasy land is football comparable to speedway? Even teams in the vanarama national league get crowds of 3500. You would have to drop into the semi pro leagues to even get anywhere close to a comparison and those sides are not fronting 30k for one player per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 I am not sure when it was but didn't Jake say he was going to stop over here for the winter( unsure whether '18-19 or '19-20) so to stop over here, without pay, must be difficult. It, also, surprised me why he had not done many meetings in Australia this last few months, more so, after winning the Darcy Ward meeting in late November. Will welcome him back with open arms in 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) With the news that Jake has withdrawn from UK racing in 2021 it seems to me we likely need to make two changes to the proposed line up ? Maybe switching one of the 5pt riders for a 4pt rider and try for Rory Schlien ? or Bradley Wilson-Dean ? who are freed following Somersets withdrawl ? Bottom line is the season IF it gets underway ? Is only ever going be a truncated affair. Likely a June start and Sept finish. So Jakes position is entirely understandable. But the options around his average are limited around UK based riders so we may have consider an 8+ rider to get near Jakes scoring. Not many of those about. BWD even if he rides in the UK might be a good option. That said hes been out a year - but so has everyone else !. For a 4pt rider one Aussie thats prepared to race a "shortened UK season" is Zane Kennedy. With his previous experience at Sheffield he might be a useful option. As much as I dont like going back on agreements with riders from 2020 I think we might have to ? SCUNTHORPE SCORPIONS AVE -2.50% 1 Josh Auty 7.78 7.41 2 0.00 0.00 3 Tero Aarnio 6.85 6.85 4 Thomas Jorgensen 6.47 6.47 5 Theo Pijper 5.49 5.49 6 Simon Lambert 5.28 5.03 7 Jordan Palin 2.00 RSx2* 2.00 Actual Total: 33.87 1 to 6 Total: 31.25 Rising Star 39.00 2.00 Remaining: 7.75 Team Total 33.25 41.00 Edited January 27, 2021 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted January 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Would Dimitri Berge fit? and would he be willing to race for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Won't be Schlien he's off to Poole. Bwd not a bad call but like palmdawg says Berge is a better option Edited January 27, 2021 by phillwhitewasmad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, ScunnyDan said: Would Dimitri Berge fit? and would he be willing to race for us? Definatley, until he spits the dummy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Berge might be an option had a 4+ ave with Belle Vue in 2019 so whats that = in the Champ ? Looking through the 2019 Averages that formed the basis for the 2020 Line Ups. The nearest rider to Jakes ave is current at Her Majesties pleasure !. So I do think we there need to be two changes to accomodate a rider with a higher ave than Jake ? That means that Pijper's( who I am sure "retired" in 2020 ? ) or Lambert's place could be in doubt ? and a nearer 4pt rider to come in. Edited January 28, 2021 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 That's a team with a lot of overseas riders considering we are in the middle of a global pandemic... Will they be all based over here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, mikebv said: That's a team with a lot of overseas riders considering we are in the middle of a global pandemic... Will they be all based over here? Only Aarnio and Jorgensen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Not too sure on Tero, but I believe Thomas is based in Boston and Theo lives in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 14 hours ago, ScunnyDan said: Not too sure on Tero, but I believe Thomas is based in Boston and Theo lives in the UK Tero travels, but he has had a base/workshop in Newcastle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 I think Scunny will have to wait until April/May when continental riders will be more willing to commit to the UK if they know there is no quarantine between Poland and the UK. If the league does start in May it could be with crowd restrictions, would all clubs start with a 50% crowd capacity? If there is a drop out or two there could be plenty of spare riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Berge to ride in Sweden and Poland ,so I guess he's out of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted January 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 hours ago, scunny1 said: Berge to ride in Sweden and Poland ,so I guess he's out of the equation. If it's not the top league in polska then I think he should be ok to race for us, if hes willing to of cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 10 hours ago, scunny1 said: Berge to ride in Sweden and Poland ,so I guess he's out of the equation. If Berge is racing in either of leagues one or two in Poland, which he is, he can still ride in two other leagues, that may be Britain. But I dont see that at Scunthorpe or any other Championship team for that matter, if Berge does race over here I think it will be for a team in the Premiership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, screm said: If Berge is racing in either of leagues one or two in Poland, which he is, he can still ride in two other leagues, that may be Britain. But I dont see that at Scunthorpe or any other Championship team for that matter, if Berge does race over here I think it will be for a team in the Premiership. Berge can be a waste of space at times, when he is not in the mood he just takes the P*ss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Pooles declaration of intent with Schlein, Worrall and King has title written all over it. If meetings come down to Heat15 then they have it covered. Scorpions certainly look underpower by comparison without Jake Allen. No one jumps out that is likely to match his scoring he is after all our No1. I know this season is probably a "take whatevers on offer" affair. We will afterall just be glad to see Speedway without bothering too much about winning anything ? Perhaps our sights will just be set on seeing Jordan Palin develop in the team and then look to 2022 when the club can reset the team to be challenging ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 You never know in speedway, if one or two of them get injured, that could be their chances gone, look at us a couple of yrs ago with Steve... I wouldn't hit the panic button yet, I'm sure our brilliant leader and chairman has a plan in mind to make us competitive come May or whenever we're starting 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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