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Playoff Semi Final 1st Leg • Wolverhampton v Swindon (9•10)


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43 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

I think Perks is a certainty and i have really enjoyed watching him ride he will make more progress next year.Douglas on his average is a rider that interests me would love him to come to. But every club will be interested he is a rider who in time will cope with being in a top five.

Do you know what Sid, based on the last few meetings I would have Vissing back. Hes gotten to grips with the Abbey and has scored a few away as well. Rasser has of course been an absolute star since he came in but the difference Perks and Vissing have made has been just as important IMO.

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Think it will be a major shock if wolves manage to turn this around but then again I thought Poole were safe going into the second leg so what do I know lol.not a lover of the play offs but if we ve got to have them get the league meeting s finished earlier so we have more chance of running play off s in better conditions. Hats off to all riders last night 

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best  advert i have seen on tv for speedway , ever ... NOT.. why does speedway run the most important meetings @ the end of the season when its cold/WET and all the supporters are shivering their bits off ? it would be easier to run the trophy meeting early doors and then fly through all the remaining league meeting while the sun shines and fans are happy under the rays of the sun .  .

then run all the fours/pairs and individual meetings just after the league . 

season finishes in July . everyone goes home happy , dry and warm .

British speedway can be dreadful at times and is not worth following at times like this .

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40 minutes ago, thecoombdog said:

Do you know what Sid, based on the last few meetings I would have Vissing back. Hes gotten to grips with the Abbey and has scored a few away as well. Rasser has of course been an absolute star since he came in but the difference Perks and Vissing have made has been just as important IMO.

Dog you are spot on can you remember the Poole home match Claus scored only 1 point but rode well since then he has contributed very well an astute signing by Rosco.

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1 minute ago, hyabb17 said:

No it wouldn't have but it still baffles me why we run meeting's in October, there is no need. 

So far we have haf farcical play offs in the PL & NL with only the CL being spared by so much rain that the fixtures have been constantly put back.  Every year we repeat the same mess, start with league fixtures get them through and run the play offs then once the title has been completed move onto the lesser comps like KO cup & whatever trophies you like (if home league fixtures haven't been completed by a hard cut off date then its either refunds on season tickets or prevent those clubs entering the KO cup).

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43 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Dog you are spot on can you remember the Poole home match Claus scored only 1 point but rode well since then he has contributed very well an astute signing by Rosco.

Yeah remember that well as all of the lads I stand with said it was the best he had ridden by far despite only getting a point. Been scoring well ever since.

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Oh dear , what an awful meeting to watch ....well done to all 14 riders for riding on that track , such a shame that all the hard work teams have put in throughout the season to get to the "play-offs"  had to come a semi-final like that last night :rolleyes:  Did the meeting really have to go ahead last night given it's still only 9th October , or more because the BT cameras were there ? Bitter pill to swallow for the Wolves fans ......

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9 hours ago, Col said:

He certainly brought his Swedish playoff form to the GB playoffs, as I thought he would.

A wet track a leveller, let’s see what he does tonight.

8 hours ago, Col said:

Because Wolves riders can't set their bikes up for wet conditions?

Thorsell displayed his 2019 playoff form. Longitudinal & latitudinal lines were expectedly irrelevant to any sensible speedway observer.

Steve... Did I or did I not having watched the Eliteserin playoffs predict that Thorsell would perform equally as disappointingly for Wolves as he did for Dackarna? Which even you have to agree he did..

A wet track always takes away home advantage, as yet again proven last night. 

Thorssell looked very uncomfortable last night. Some riders either excel in the wet or don’t. A wet track takes away any known form.

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

On a dry track he would have been fine. 

Col says he wouldn’t, but of course I agree with you.

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Feel sorry for Wolves, given normal track conditions they would have been much more competitive last night but it is what it is unfortunately for them. Swindon deserve credit for doing their job though. 

Those people moaning about the track and the racing had the choice to turn off as soon as they saw how wet the circuit was once the broadcast began so don’t really understand why you would watch it and then whinge. I do agree however that these meetings should be scheduled early in September and the whole thing over and done with long before now. I appreciate recent Octobers have been decent weather wise but with damper, shorter and cooler days compared to 4-5 weeks ago I think you run the risk of encountering problems the longer things drag on. I just hope both legs of the final have good weather as the rain has affected both semis (although not the Ipswich leg where Poole crumbled). 

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11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

If I had won by 10-14 points away in the first leg I would 110% be celebrating making the final. It would take the chokiest chokes of chokesdon Hill for there to be an upset. Considering Swindon haven’t been beaten at home this season and have a huge lead, I think it’s safe to say the title is in the bag this season. Ipswich are no threat whatsoever.

But we beat the title favourites........who had a lack of bottle to ride in the wet and then couldnt handle the pressure in the away leg.............you had already won twice at Foxhall but when the pressure was on your manager couldnt motivate them and Ipswich wanted it more...............you even said you wanted to ride us every week lol

11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

They got lucky with the conditions. Poole would have had 60+ had it not rained and played into the away sides hands.

Ipswich are zero threat to Swindon in the final. Two easy wins, just like tonight was for them.

How do you know how the first leg would have gone?

In those early heats Poole riders couldnt make a gate for toffee...........so if it was dry we could still have had a good lead

11 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Poole were no threat when the choked. Simple as. 

Poole bottled it big time............they won at Foxhall twice earlier in the season....and once with a weak team as Shovlar was very happy to point out many times........they go to Foxhall witrh a big lead and choked choked choked......

11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

He isn’t going to get a ride there so needs to be in the third tier to start.

He already rides in Poland................you need to get facts before posting

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The rain did make the meeting a bit of a leveller but in my opinion it was the expected result from my point of view

In July Swindon lost by 6 at Wolves........and had Bellego and Ayres riding and no Musilek

In April they lost by 2 at Wolves and had Lampart , Zach and Shanes riding

So yes i firmly believed that Swindon could and would win last night

Its funny when the Poole fans moan about bad weather.......seem to remember they were happy when they got to heat 10 against Belle Vue one year

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1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Feel sorry for Wolves, given normal track conditions they would have been much more competitive last night but it is what it is unfortunately for them. Swindon deserve credit for doing their job though. 

Those people moaning about the track and the racing had the choice to turn off as soon as they saw how wet the circuit was once the broadcast began so don’t really understand why you would watch it and then whinge. I do agree however that these meetings should be scheduled early in September and the whole thing over and done with long before now. I appreciate recent Octobers have been decent weather wise but with damper, shorter and cooler days compared to 4-5 weeks ago I think you run the risk of encountering problems the longer things drag on. I just hope both legs of the final have good weather as the rain has affected both semis (although not the Ipswich leg where Poole crumbled). 

So, presented with a totally unacceptable situation, we're supposed to meekly change channels and keep quiet? No. It doesn't work that way. Anyway, this isn't about the TV audience, it's about those who were relieved of nearly £20 on the night to watch a fiasco. 

When something is deeply wrong you do the sport a disservice by simply ignoring it. Those responsible have to be told quite firmly that this is NOT acceptable. We've had too many people either 'switching off' - for good or giving up attending live matches while those who are driving them away go unchallenged. 

There are 22 days left in the speedway season. Plenty of time to run four meetings without imposing last night's rip-off on increasingly disillusioned customers. If you spend a whjole season hyping up the play-offs to the detriment of the main season you HAVE to deliver, even if it takes six postponements before you get a usable track. 

I've seen 49 speedway Octobers so far and while you do get the odd run of bad weather I've seen plenty of clear months. I've even happily paid my money to watch speedway in November, once even for a challenge match!

Forcing a farce through for TV is far more damaging than calling it off. We have people constantly banging on about the sport being ruined by bad decision making yet we're supposed to just shrug our shoulders and turn away from last night? 

Forcing meetings through on unfit tracks was all very well when speedway was cheap.

It isn't now.

 

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Same principle with those who paid to get in, the forecast was pretty clear. You pays your money and takes your choice. It was always going to be a quagmire. 

But I’m not disagreeing with whether the meeting should have happened or not. Unfortunately the window for getting these meetings raced is shrinking because British speedway is so disorganised and quite frankly a mess. We shouldn’t be scratching around in mid October trying to get semi finals raced. 

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