ragdoll64 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Midland Red said: P155 poor camera work (or production) last night Majority of starts were missed, trying to get arty-farty views, too much follow the leader close-ups Was it a crew not versed in speedway as it was a rearranged date? Totally agree and this is becoming the norm. One of the reasons we go to watch speedway is because we can see ALL the action at once.....so why, oh why on the telly do they insist on showing close ups, having us miss some of the close racing and passing elsewhere. It’s the same in the MotoGP.....Being televised, it allows us to see what the attending spectators can’t.....but when they show slow motion shots, close ups and riders walking back to the pits after a crash, we invariably miss an exciting change of position somewhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Feel sorry for Wolves, given normal track conditions they would have been much more competitive last night but it is what it is unfortunately for them. Swindon deserve credit for doing their job though. Those people moaning about the track and the racing had the choice to turn off as soon as they saw how wet the circuit was once the broadcast began so don’t really understand why you would watch it and then whinge. I do agree however that these meetings should be scheduled early in September and the whole thing over and done with long before now. I appreciate recent Octobers have been decent weather wise but with damper, shorter and cooler days compared to 4-5 weeks ago I think you run the risk of encountering problems the longer things drag on. I just hope both legs of the final have good weather as the rain has affected both semis (although not the Ipswich leg where Poole crumbled). did those people that had the choice to turn off the BT coverage really want to turn off the coverage , especially after paying for their their BT coverage ? but as mentioned earlier , if it was not on tv the meeting would have been off . . after all Rasser and Claus would not like to ride a track that you can make sand castles from ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Feel sorry for Wolves, given normal track conditions they would have been much more competitive last night but it is what it is unfortunately for them. Swindon deserve credit for doing their job though. Those people moaning about the track and the racing had the choice to turn off as soon as they saw how wet the circuit was once the broadcast began so don’t really understand why you would watch it and then whinge. I do agree however that these meetings should be scheduled early in September and the whole thing over and done with long before now. I appreciate recent Octobers have been decent weather wise but with damper, shorter and cooler days compared to 4-5 weeks ago I think you run the risk of encountering problems the longer things drag on. I just hope both legs of the final have good weather as the rain has affected both semis (although not the Ipswich leg where Poole crumbled). I pay every month of the year to watch BT for the Speedway so I'll whinge all I want, I wouldn't walk out a meeting once I paid the £20 so not going to switch the telly over either ....the only reason they pushed that meeting through last night was the cameras were there , makes a complete farce out of the Play-offs even more so at the top level , shouldn't be surprised as British Speedway is a farce ...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Taylorj said: I pay every month of the year to watch BT for the Speedway so I'll whinge all I want, I wouldn't walk out a meeting once I paid the £20 so not going to switch the telly over either ....the only reason they pushed that meeting through last night was the cameras were there , makes a complete farce out of the Play-offs even more so at the top level , shouldn't be surprised as British Speedway is a farce ...... 20 quid to watch riders ride round in sludge, when under normal circumstances it wouldnt have run.. Id ask for a refund. I feel Wolves were very hard done by, no home advantage whatsoever in circumstances like that. And not a good advert for the play off's im affraid. But then again, BT was there.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Televised league speedway, live in the UK, is bad for the sport - for the promoters, the riders, the fans Get rid - asap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: 20 quid to watch riders ride round in sludge, when under normal circumstances it wouldnt have run.. Id ask for a refund. I feel Wolves were very hard done by, no home advantage whatsoever in circumstances like that. And not a good advert for the play off's im affraid. But then again, BT was there.. But ok when sky were at Belle Vue when Poole needed a win to get in the play offs and the meeting was forced through to heat 10 to get a result........riders falling off all over the place, Janowski couldnt even turn the bike But then again that was for Pooles benefit.........just a shame that the 2019 side couldnt ride in the wet.......or at Foxhall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Taylorj said: I pay every month of the year to watch BT for the Speedway so I'll whinge all I want, I wouldn't walk out a meeting once I paid the £20 so not going to switch the telly over either ....the only reason they pushed that meeting through last night was the cameras were there , makes a complete farce out of the Play-offs even more so at the top level , shouldn't be surprised as British Speedway is a farce ...... The subscription thing is a fair point, but did you expect anything other than what it was? The issue that we should all be complaining about is the authorities leaving it so late in the season so there was no choice other than to run in on a wet night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Funny isn't it. We see all the time how in the "good old day"s riders used to ride in the wet because those were, like, the "good old days". Then, when it happens now, everyone complains about it. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Bit of a farce last night. Others have suggesting rushing through the season to ensure play-off in summer. I am not sure we need to go that far, but without questions play-off's should NOT be in October. Yes some years will be lucky with dry weather, but it will be cold. But this is the UK and October likely to give rain in October more often than not. I would suggest we ensure all league fixtures completed by the middle of August, with the play off's in late August/September. Yes it can rain in September too, but there's better chance of dry and warmer weather than October. October can be used for backup if September does prove to be a washout. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 I didn't watch it, so didn't the riders say the track is unfit for racing? Were they and the ref forced by someone to race and let it be raced? Surely it's not BT that say if a meeting goes ahead or not? Was the bspa chairman there insisting it goes ahead? Normally everyone is worried about rider safety,, why were they not worried last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) First of all, my compliments to all the riders for giving it a go. As a spectacle it was a horror show both if you were there in person or watching on TV. I understand, to a degree, why it went ahead but it must be so disappointing for Wolves fans in particular, to see a seasons' work effectively decided on a track which would have declared unfit under any other circumstances. Agree, the camera angles were really weird and show no understanding of how races should be portrayed. Parts of the track looked really dark, unusual where TV cameras normally compensate well for poor illumination. I don't recall that being an issue in other Wolves televised meetings (bend 2 was really dark last night). I suppose the one saving grace, if there is one, is that only speedway fans would have been watching and any supporter of a few years standing would not have been surprised by last night's events. Edited October 10, 2019 by TonyE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 So do tv now run british speedway. Surely they must do if it wouldn't have gone ahead if not there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Baldyman said: So do tv now run british speedway. Surely they must do if it wouldn't have gone ahead if not there Not sure it was just about tv . the rain started at 7.10 with a large crowd already inside the stadium massive on wolves to get a match on . I think us fans sometimes lose sight of the money side of the sport and what impact calling off a match has . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, Grachan said: Funny isn't it. We see all the time how in the "good old day"s riders used to ride in the wet because those were, like, the "good old days". Then, when it happens now, everyone complains about it. They put sawdust on the track first, and riders donned overalls to protect their leathers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 I have to say that I was particularly impressed with Luke Becker's performance. He made a nonsense of the track conditions against Troy Batchelor and again later in the meeting. I'm not saying the track condition was not bad. Clearly it was horrible. But the decision was to run the meeting. Be it the crowd, the TV or the lateness in the season, it was going ahead. Congratulations to all those riders who just said to themselves, "Let's go". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, hyabb17 said: I’d happily have Perks in my 2020 side Good for you. All I am saying is fans from at least 4 other clubs want Douglas in their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Sorry thought i was only trying to help . Why the verbal volley ? would you say it to my face ? Yep!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Steve0 said: Wrong! I said months ago that Perks would be the first name on my team sheet next season Okay, I will rephrase, only Swindon fans want him atm. More want Douglas, which was my whole point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, False dawn said: I have to say that I was particularly impressed with Luke Becker's performance. He made a nonsense of the track conditions against Troy Batchelor and again later in the meeting. I'm not saying the track condition was not bad. Clearly it was horrible. But the decision was to run the meeting. Be it the crowd, the TV or the lateness in the season, it was going ahead. Congratulations to all those riders who just said to themselves, "Let's go". The meeting would not have been so late if the teams did not have gaps in the season, anything up to three weeks without a home meeting, during the summer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 To be fair. You get plenty of garbage matches in all sports.. I just think that we as fans want to be entertained possibly too much and are sometimes unrealistic.. Lots of Speedway fans are not that focused on their teams, but the sport itself, given the nonsense that goes on, and that might be why we often feel a bit deflated by what gets delivered.. Lots of Swindon fans will I am sure be content with the win and lots of Wolves fans will be disappointed with the defeat. And plenty of both will be disappointed with what they watched regardless of result.. It does though ultimately go back to running the showpiece events when the summer has ended. Keep doing this, (like will happen ad infinitum), and the defence of the poor racing and reduced crowds due to weather threat, becomes very weak, as basically it's (yet another), self inflicted wound.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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