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Poole v Ipswich Play Off Semi 1st leg. 23/9/19


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4 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

It is still a valid league match. The cut-off date is simply an arbitrary date to allow the play-off teams to be known. The season carries on until 31st October. I would expect the matter had been discussed and resolved prior to the date being announced.

Of course, I meant to add that even tho it’s still an official league fixture it’s priority is trumped by that of a more important Play Off fixture.

3 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

The same situation will now arise on 13th October - Newcastle v Redcar in CLKOC final, Wolverhampton v Peterborough in PST. (Charles Wright and Ulrich Ostergaard).

Didn’t think the PST will be classed as more important tho?

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1 hour ago, Gavan said:

I want Lawson to ride he has been with us all season

But where does the words common sense appear in the rule book?

If the rules state that Lawson has to ride for Eastbourne then so be it..................you cant change a rule just to apply common sense.........oh wait last years play off final the rules were changed to allow Morris to ride

I think the rule book should be scrapped and then we can just get Poole speedway and its fans to just decide what 'common sense' is at the business end of the season.

If Eastbourne and Ipswich have come to an agreement then so be it........irony if Lawson becomes a match winner

Wouldn’t be ironic at all. It would be fine as he is an Ipswich rider. Clearly with all the bleating you are doing about hoping he would ride for Eastbourne so that in your mind Ipswich could gain an advantage with r/r, it isn’t going to happen. Tough luck. He is riding for Ipswich. Both teams at full strength. 

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1 hour ago, hammer1969 said:

Richards also rode for Eastbourne all season and us Eastie fans would like to see him riding in our last meeting, even if it's not as Important as a play off.

And im in agreement with you..............meeting importance doesnt come into it ...rules are rules

45 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

As agreed by Kings Lynn, Morris to ride both legs for Poole, and Ellis both legs for Kings Lynn 

So the clubs just decide who can ride then rather then the rulebook...........Kings Lynn agree to use Tai in the final and agree Poole can have Zmarzlik..........

8 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Wouldn’t be ironic at all. It would be fine as he is an Ipswich rider. Clearly with all the bleating you are doing about hoping he would ride for Eastbourne so that in your mind Ipswich could gain an advantage with r/r, it isn’t going to happen. Tough luck. He is riding for Ipswich. Both teams at full strength. 

Where have i said i want him to ride for Eastbourne??? Try reading the line where ive said that i want him to ride for us as he did all season....and a valid point made by hammer1969 that he has also ridden for Eastbourne to.

R/R wouldnt make us stronger much of a muchness............would rather have our full 1-7

Im a firm believer in the rules of speedway and i know as a Poole fan you probably dont understand that line of thinking

If Lawson does or doesnt ride , if Poole dont get through it will be the biggest choke in play off history.........unlikely there has been a hotter favourite in the semis since the play offs began.....i just hope we can keep the score respectable

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14 minutes ago, Gavan said:

And im in agreement with you..............meeting importance doesnt come into it ...rules are rules

So the clubs just decide who can ride then rather then the rulebook...........Kings Lynn agree to use Tai in the final and agree Poole can have Zmarzlik..........

Where have i said i want him to ride for Eastbourne??? Try reading the line where ive said that i want him to ride for us as he did all season....and a valid point made by hammer1969 that he has also ridden for Eastbourne to.

R/R wouldnt make us stronger much of a muchness............would rather have our full 1-7

Im a firm believer in the rules of speedway and i know as a Poole fan you probably dont understand that line of thinking

If Lawson does or doesnt ride , if Poole dont get through it will be the biggest choke in play off history.........unlikely there has been a hotter favourite in the semis since the play offs began.....i just hope we can keep the score respectable

Yes please can we have Zmarzlik at reserve 

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19 minutes ago, Gavan said:

And im in agreement with you..............meeting importance doesnt come into it ...rules are rules

So the clubs just decide who can ride then rather then the rulebook...........Kings Lynn agree to use Tai in the final and agree Poole can have Zmarzlik..........

Where have i said i want him to ride for Eastbourne??? Try reading the line where ive said that i want him to ride for us as he did all season....and a valid point made by hammer1969 that he has also ridden for Eastbourne to.

R/R wouldnt make us stronger much of a muchness............would rather have our full 1-7

Im a firm believer in the rules of speedway and i know as a Poole fan you probably dont understand that line of thinking

If Lawson does or doesnt ride , if Poole dont get through it will be the biggest choke in play off history.........unlikely there has been a hotter favourite in the semis since the play offs began.....i just hope we can keep the score respectable

Not again Gavan?!  Yeah we get it. 'If Poole lose they will have choked'! How many times have you repeated this. Please give it a rest and come up with something new.

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53 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

Of course, I meant to add that even tho it’s still an official league fixture it’s priority is trumped by that of a more important Play Off fixture.

Didn’t think the PST will be classed as more important tho?

You could add Art 16.1 to the mix!

Fixtures shall take priority as follows:

FIM Speedway Grand Prix
Speedway Of Nations
Speedway Grand Prix Qualifying Meetings
FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings
FIM Speedway European Championship
FIM Europe U21 Championship
British Championships (Senior, Junior)
BSPA Shared and Fee Events
Official Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League.
NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above.

 

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9 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

You could add Art 16.1 to the mix!

Fixtures shall take priority as follows:

FIM Speedway Grand Prix
Speedway Of Nations
Speedway Grand Prix Qualifying Meetings
FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings
FIM Speedway European Championship
FIM Europe U21 Championship
British Championships (Senior, Junior)
BSPA Shared and Fee Events
Official Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League.
NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above.

 

Surely non official competitions would mean friendlies which neither of the meetings on Saturday are.

 

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12 minutes ago, hammer1969 said:

Surely non official competitions would mean friendlies which neither of the meetings on Saturday are.

 

Look at the line above that. At face value there’s two consecutive rules 16.1 and 16.1.1 which contradict each other!

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35 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

Look at the line above that. At face value there’s two consecutive rules 16.1 and 16.1.1 which contradict each other!

What a surprise ! (Not!).

Do you think the fact that 16.1.1 is in bold typeface might indicate that it maybe relevant and have priority over 16.1 ?

Perhaps not, but the rules are quite clear but it now seems that priorities are organised not by the rules but by what someone thinks is a more ‘important’ meeting. 

I like to hear a comment from the Eastbourne promotion.

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1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Not again Gavan?!  Yeah we get it. 'If Poole lose they will have choked'! How many times have you repeated this. Please give it a rest and come up with something new.

He seems to think if he says it enough times we will believe him. Instead we just laugh at his continuous guff.

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1 hour ago, NeilWatson said:

You could add Art 16.1 to the mix!

Fixtures shall take priority as follows:

FIM Speedway Grand Prix
Speedway Of Nations
Speedway Grand Prix Qualifying Meetings
FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings
FIM Speedway European Championship
FIM Europe U21 Championship
British Championships (Senior, Junior)
BSPA Shared and Fee Events
Official Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League.
NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above.

 

This needs making much simpler! No wonder the rule book can be interpreted to suit most arguments!

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