Guest Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) How many speedway clubs/tracks have there been in Britain since the sport started here in February 1928? How does an overall list of those operating now compare? If the tracks shown in this Link are correct it indicates that London has lost more tracks than are currently operating. The overall national list must be very large? http://londonspeedways.proboards.com/board/44/london-tracks-1928 Edited September 11, 2019 by Guest updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Oh great ~ just what we needed ~ another negative topic. Why don't you have a cup of tea and then take a walk outside in the sunshine, listen to the birds singing and relax. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 hours ago, gustix said: How many speedway clubs/tracks have there been in Britain since the sport started here in February 1928? How does an overall list of those operating now compare? If the tracks shown in this Link are correct it indicates that London has lost more tracks than are currently operating. The overall national list must be very large? http://londonspeedways.proboards.com/board/44/london-tracks-1928 Per retro speedway 84 venues shut in 70 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Gemini said: Oh great ~ just what we needed ~ another negative topic. Why don't you have a cup of tea and then take a walk outside in the sunshine, listen to the birds singing and relax. You don’t have to read the topic if it doesn’t interest you.Some people might find it interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Okay fair enough. I just get fed up with the continual negative posts about speedway from gustix who probably last went to a meeting in the 1930's. We all know the sport has lost umpteen tracks over the years and I notice he has changed the wording on the original post, which is what I saw 9 hours ago and you probably didn't, so it now reads completely differently to what it did before and what I based my comment on. Edited September 11, 2019 by Gemini 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gemini said: Okay fair enough. I just get fed up with the continual negative posts about speedway from gustix who probably last went to a meeting in the 1930's. At least he hasn't mentioned stock cars! Yet... We all know the sport is in dire straits right now, but I will agree that all the ultra-negative posts from the same handful of posters does get tiresome... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, chunky said: At least he hasn't mentioned stock cars! Yet... Why is there this bias from speedway supporters against stock cars aka short circuit car racing? I am on several Facebook groups devoted to the cars and cannot ever recall seeing an anti-speedway post. Maybe the anti-cars bias is a feeling of insecurity by speedway people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, gustix said: Why is there this bias from speedway supporters against stock cars aka short circuit car racing? I am on several Facebook groups devoted to the cars and cannot ever recall seeing an anti-speedway post. Maybe the anti-cars bias is a feeling of insecurity by speedway people? Or short circuit bike racing people...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, RS50 said: Per retro speedway 84 venues shut in 70 years. Then it must be more over 90 years - British speedway started at High Beech in February 1928. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, gustix said: Why is there this bias from speedway supporters against stock cars aka short circuit car racing? I am on several Facebook groups devoted to the cars and cannot ever recall seeing an anti-speedway post. Maybe the anti-cars bias is a feeling of insecurity by speedway people? Probably because of the damage they do. A Thursday speedway match at Sheffield once had to be called off due to the state track was left in after stock cars previous Sunday. Would not occur to them to return it to it's previous state. Also remember stock cars running on centre green at Owlerton despite repeated requests not to do so as it was used by a local football team. Clearly have no consideration for others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, gustix said: Why is there this bias from speedway supporters against stock cars aka short circuit car racing? I am on several Facebook groups devoted to the cars and cannot ever recall seeing an anti-speedway post. Maybe the anti-cars bias is a feeling of insecurity by speedway people? It is not a bias against stock cars at all. It is more that we are tired of the way that you turn 99% of speedway-related threads into a stock car thread. And no, I am not saying that you shouldn't ever mention short-circuit car racing (people often compare speedway to football, cricket, F1, and even darts) but in most cases, your comments seem irrelevant to the thread. Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 I would have thought that 200 Speedway Clubs have shut since 1928 but that amounts to about 180 tracks during the same period due to second teams running at the same venue then shutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 hours ago, RS50 said: Probably because of the damage they do. A Thursday speedway match at Sheffield once had to be called off due to the state track was left in after stock cars previous Sunday. Would not occur to them to return it to it's previous state. Also remember stock cars running on centre green at Owlerton despite repeated requests not to do so as it was used by a local football team. Clearly have no consideration for others. Same problems occured at Cowley during the early middle seventies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) All those now concerned about "negative" threads ( or opinions ) could perhaps look at this spin perspective. Numerous exciting close races have taken place during the 2019 UK season ( so far ). Several young riders likely " to go far" have made their mark in the Championship League. Crowds at most tracks have held up in a year by year comparison ( with 2018 ). 23 tracks continue to run speedway matches & TV spectating numbers have soared. Triple World Champion Tai Woffinden made an excellent debut commentating on BT. Draw your own conclusions about the state of UK speedway today. Nothing to worry about? Edited September 12, 2019 by waytogo28 additional point made 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 10 hours ago, RS50 said: Probably because of the damage they do. A Thursday speedway match at Sheffield once had to be called off due to the state track was left in after stock cars previous Sunday. Would not occur to them to return it to it's previous state. Also remember stock cars running on centre green at Owlerton despite repeated requests not to do so as it was used by a local football team. Clearly have no consideration for others. Surely track preparation, centre green repairs (if needed) are the ultimate responsibility of the stadium rather than those who rent the place? In a 'contact' formula stock car race a car can be pushed aside by an opponent and as a result unintentionally forced on to the centre green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Crowds at most tracks have held up in a year by year comparison ( with 2018 ). 23 tracks continue to run speedway matches & TV spectating numbers have soared. Triple World Champion Tai Woffinden made an excellent debut commentating on BT. Can you clarify the statement re soaring TV spectating numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, gustix said: Can you clarify the statement re soaring TV spectating numbers? Would it be a bit like Flat track is flourishing in Canada, because they host 9 meetings a year? Can you clarify what flourishing means? Each speedway track must in your opinion be flourishing , surely ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, gustix said: Surely track preparation, centre green repairs (if needed) are the ultimate responsibility of the stadium rather than those who rent the place? In a 'contact' formula stock car race a car can be pushed aside by an opponent and as a result unintentionally forced on to the centre green. The driving on the centre green I am referring to was repeated and deliberate despite repeated requests and a reasoned explanation that it was harming the surface for other users. I also seriously doubt that, in rented stadiums, landlords do track preparation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, RS50 said: The driving on the centre green I am referring to was repeated and deliberate despite repeated requests and a reasoned explanation that it was harming the surface for other users. I also seriously doubt that, in rented stadiums, landlords do track preparation. Fair and respected comment RS50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, gustix said: Fair and respected comment RS50. Any clarification on the use of ‘flourishing ‘ for Flat Track in Canada ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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