foamfence Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Belle Vue's Hyde Road was bulldozed for car auctions. Sometimes outside forces influence things. Perhaps Stoke's closure isn't entirely the sport's fault. You can follow a team loyally for decades and yet this happens. Speedway is so cruel and its existence hangs by a thread. Sort it out, promoters. And the man who looked to be it's saviour turned out to be the reaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, foamfence said: I agree with that but it would mean reverting to one league and initially a lower standard of rider, fine by me but every time anyone suggests it on here they get shouted down. yes but the shouters will have to face facts sooner or later 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I loved the sport up until about 2006. Things became kind of fake. It was no longer a case of turning up at a track to follow a team of riders you had a kinship with. It was like turning up to help support some guys to ride bikes and pay their mortgage. They needed three clubs in this country and perhaps one abroad to keep busy. The riders ran the show. Promoters were too weak to resist. Now we have an unrecognizable sport than even 15 years ago. That is where the problem lies. You used to finish the season with near enough the same seven you began with, give or take. If promoters don't see this, there is no future. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 The sport is run for the benefit of the riders, not the fans. What we want does not matter, we are just an irritant to the promoters. In the end there will be no fans left, just empty stadiums. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 STATEMENT RE CHESTERTON STADIUM Startrax have been advised at 2.30.pm today by Dave Tattum that the freehold for Chesterton Stadium has been sold with immediate effect and advised that racing will cease by 31st October this year with a period to the year end for removal of equipment. However, we have been granted an extension to enable the early November BriSCA F1 Stock Car event to take place which will be the last ever event for motorsport at Loomer Road, to be staged. We do not have the full details as to whom has bought the stadium and at this stage or plans for it for the future. Dave has only been advised in the last 24 hours of the decision and has now informed ourselves. We are unaware of any planning applications submitted for the stadium at this present time. Whilst at this point we are still coming to terms with the announcement, it has been no secret by ourselves for a number of years, that the freehold for the site has been for sale for redevelopment. We have also stated that racing was allowed to continue there as goodwill rather than just flatten the site until such point in time it was sold. Indeed in the past we ourselves offered £1m for the site however the valuation was much higher. There was always an inevitability that it would be sold, now that has happened. We are currently looking at options and indeed we plan to stage probably two additional events at Loomer Road in October to ensure it least gets a proper farewell. However, the last event WILL be the first Saturday in November. The Potters final match will be this coming Saturday, 14th September. Whilst the future of Belle Vue also hangs in the balance, we will be relocating in 2020 fixtures to Sheffield as part of an overall planned 11 date season to discuss in coming weeks with the stadium management There is obvious sadness at the loss which is also a major blow for Stoke Potters Speedway with both sports being at the stadium since it was built and opened in 1973. Regrettably, we have no jurisdiction over it's destiny and ownership. REMAINING DATES AT STOKE SATURDAY 21st SEPTEMBER SATURDAY 5th OCTOBER PROV EXTRA DATE SATURDAY 12th OCTOBER SATURDAY 19th OCTOBER PROV EXTRA DATE SATURDAY 26th OCTOBER GRAND FAREWELL MEETING - SATURDAY 2nd NOVEMBER BriSCA F1 /MINISTOX/V8 GRAND FAREWELL E/OE 10th September 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophykid Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Very sad to see my local track go. I don’t think there’s the fan base or the desire to start somewhere else. Speedway in the U.K. is like the best cake ever, but someone’s iced it with rubbish. I fear the worst for remaining clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Sounds ominous for Startrax. Could be losing 2 tracks.!!! I thought the sport was in a better position than speedway from one or two. And 1 million for such a site does seem a little naieve,no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, trophykid said: Very sad to see my local track go. I don’t think there’s the fan base or the desire to start somewhere else. Speedway in the U.K. is like the best cake ever, but someone’s iced it with rubbish. I fear the worst for remaining clubs. Maybe there could be a revival at Buxton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, foamfence said: I agree with that but it would mean reverting to one league and initially a lower standard of rider, fine by me but every time anyone suggests it on here they get shouted down. Maybe those who shout this down would prefer a no league structure over a one league structure? The one positive of all these tracks closing over the past three years is that eventually we will get one league and a supply of riders that exceeds demand as places will be scarce. Meaning salaries will start to reflect the sports' actual level not the fantasy level it seems to try and pretend it is at.. No need for guests either when so many subs are sat waiting for their chance.. Survival of the fittest always includes a cull of the weakest for the species to survive, strengthen, and evolve.. Let's hope there's enough of the fittest left to move it forward.. Edited September 10, 2019 by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 As stadiums deteriorate with age it will be cheaper to sell off and profit from the land. The crowd levels cannot demand the continuation of the sport at many venues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, iris123 said: Sounds ominous for Startrax. Could be losing 2 tracks.!!! I thought the sport was in a better position than speedway from one or two. And 1 million for such a site does seem a little naieve,no? Speedway, stock car and greyhound racing are all cloth cap sports in the decline. As the crowds fall and the revenue shrinks, more stadiums will become vulnerable to the developers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, GWC said: As stadiums deteriorate with age it will be cheaper to sell off and profit from the land. The crowd levels cannot demand the continuation of the sport at many venues. Especially in this age of creature comforts and strict health and safety guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I would watch speedway racing from a grass verge as long as it had proper rules. Apart from the track, proper rules and foundations of the sport are the main importance. You wouldn't even play a board game if the rules of the game were as flimsy as this sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 So Belle Vue next??? The 'National Stadium' that was going to be the pearl of British speedway? This will send shivers down the rest of the British speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Bird Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: So Belle Vue next??? The 'National Stadium' that was going to be the pearl of British speedway? This will send shivers down the rest of the British speedway. No the old one next door Edited September 10, 2019 by Tracy Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Fortythirtyeight said: So Belle Vue next??? The 'National Stadium' that was going to be the pearl of British speedway? This will send shivers down the rest of the British speedway. NOT the National Speedway Stadium where the Belle Vue speedway teams are based. It's the old Belle Vue Stadium 'next door' currently staging short circuit cars and I think (not sure} greyhound racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Gutted about Stoke. I always say i will go to watch them or Sheffield with them being the nearest ones to me after BV. Always got put off going by too much live Sport on tv. Now i am too late with 1 of them. I really hope no more Clubs stop going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Sad that it might be the end of the Kirky Lane stadium, the saviour of speedway in Manchester after Hyde Road's demise. But whatever you do, who is ever in charge, do not allow Stockcars in at the NSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Sad that it might be the end of the Kirky Lane stadium, the saviour of speedway in Manchester after Hyde Road's demise. But whatever you do, who is ever in charge, do not allow Stockcars in at the NSS. Why not? Isn't the actual stadium owners the council? And if their ratepayers who are also car fans insist this happens how can they be denied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, gustix said: Why not? Isn't the actual stadium owners the council? And if their ratepayers who are also car fans insist this happens how can they be denied? They'll be denied by the hockey pitch on the infield. Even the bikes are not allowed anywhere near it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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