fatface Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) One for Tony...and possible others? I have a (very) vague recollection of Speedway Mail in the early 80s - possibly earlier? - of an annual World Top 10 unofficial rankings being printed in the Mail, provided by prominent reporters from different countries. Naturally, there was a bit of national bias with the Polish correspondent ranking Zenon Plech higher than other national scribes, but it still made for interesting reading. So, I guess I have a few questions... 1) have I imagined this? 2) if not, please can someone dig them out for a refresh? 3) still if not, perhaps Tony can give us some background story on how they came about? Thank you :-) Edited September 9, 2019 by falcace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMac Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 You are correct, the Mail did run an annual poll for international journos to vote for their Top 10 riders each year. It was started by John Hyam, the de facto editor immediately after Ian MacDonald left in 1978, although I think John introduced it some years before then. I guess he simply contacted each of the scribes by snail mail (no pun intended) and asked them to cast their vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, tmc said: You are correct, the Mail did run an annual poll for international journos to vote for their Top 10 riders each year. It was started by John Hyam, the de facto editor immediately after Ian MacDonald left in 1978, although I think John introduced it some years before then. I guess he simply contacted each of the scribes by snail mail (no pun intended) and asked them to cast their vote. Thanks Tony. Good to know I am not going mad. Is John Gustix? It'd be great to see those rankings again, just out of pure curiousity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, falcace said: Thanks Tony. Good to know I am not going mad. Is John Gustix? It'd be great to see those rankings again, just out of pure curiousity. Yes that's correct. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Many years before the 'Speedway Mail' world rankings I started a similar scheme in 'Speedway Star' in the 1950s - only difference was it covered a Top 20 ratings rather than a Top 10. Voting lists made by normal mail were from 'Speedway Star' representatives in different countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Reddy Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 World Ranking lists were included in the Stenner's annuals in the 1940s and 1950s, as well as Australian, Scandinavian and divisional rankings - the latter compiled by individual contributors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/14/2019 at 4:02 PM, Ruth Reddy said: World Ranking lists were included in the Stenner's annuals in the 1940s and 1950s, as well as Australian, Scandinavian and divisional rankings - the latter compiled by individual contributors. On 9/14/2019 at 7:39 AM, gustix said: Many years before the 'Speedway Mail' world rankings I started a similar scheme in 'Speedway Star' in the 1950s - only difference was it covered a Top 20 ratings rather than a Top 10. Voting lists made by normal mail were from 'Speedway Star' representatives in different countries. Thanks very much both. It would be great to see those lists. Just out of pure curiousity. Are they on-line at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) I have a vague recollection that at one time these World Ranking lists were online. But it was quite a few years ago and I have no idea now where or what the source was. Possibly they were on a website that has long time become defunct. Edited September 17, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Further to my previous comment I have a VAGUE recollection that MANY years ago Bob Andrews had a website which carried the old world ratings. Edited April 30, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Someone, well arnieg has compiled a list for last year and it seems they have done some previous years as well. But not sure if they are online http://www.speedwayplus.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Stenner's Rankings.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 SPEEDWAY STAR Rankings.docx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Don't work for me, Norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, iris123 said: Don't work for me, Norbold Does for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, norbold said: Does for me. Good for you. All I get is.... Sorry, there is a problem This attachment is not available. It may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it to this location. Error code: 2C171/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 8:22 AM, iris123 said: Someone, well arnieg has compiled a list for last year and it seems they have done some previous years as well. But not sure if they are online http://www.speedwayplus.com/ The rankings for 2017 and earlier are here: http://russpeedway.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2130 They were done by a guy in the Ukraine (with a few tweaks and adjustments added by me) When he stopped I did my own for 2018 but it was quite a chore. I only did 2019s because I suddenly have more time on my hand! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, iris123 said: Good for you. All I get is.... Sorry, there is a problem This attachment is not available. It may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it to this location. Error code: 2C171/1 Same error for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 OK. I'll have to think of another way of sharing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Is this the ratings list you are looking for? http://russpeedway.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, gustix said: Is this the ratings list you are looking for? http://russpeedway.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2130 No. Arnieg showed that one 4 posts up? The headings on the link on norbolds post surely indicate broadly what he is trying to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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