Sings4Speedway Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, flipper11 said: Sings. You imply that none of the Kent riders are happy, what makes you think that? Its not always happiness or lack of that causes riders to move on. That said Kemp hasn't looked the force many expected, Jenkins hasn't really taken to the track and briefly cost him his love for the sport, likewise Ablitt. Gilkes committed to the team despite initially thinking it was going to be a weekend race night. Rowe & Spooner have been in the team for a few years now and need to move on to progress further so if i was to hazard a guess id only expect to see Ledwith & Mulford back next season possibly Clouting dependant on team building numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipper11 Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Its not always happiness or lack of that causes riders to move on. That said Kemp hasn't looked the force many expected, Jenkins hasn't really taken to the track and briefly cost him his love for the sport, likewise Ablitt. Gilkes committed to the team despite initially thinking it was going to be a weekend race night. Rowe & Spooner have been in the team for a few years now and need to move on to progress further so if i was to hazard a guess id only expect to see Ledwith & Mulford back next season possibly Clouting dependant on team building numbers. Ive watched Drew at every Kent match this season & its true he does not seem to have the fire in his belly he had last year, that may be down to the pressure of riding in the main team at Sheffield more than not liking riding at Kent, he is of course still very young in speedway terms & will learn a lot from this year. I hope he returns for us because i feel the best has yet to come from him (sadly i doubt he will return though), Gilkes will not be going anywhere he is very happy with things at Kent & the supporters would go berserk if he went anywhere else! I spoke to Jordan last night & he is very happy at Kent & seems keen on his racing again. Mulford is nailed on (hopefully). Rowe i think will be No 1 next year, i don't think moving track will make any difference to him, he seems to ride well at every track. As for the others there will always be the end of season merry go round depending on averages same as every other track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 hours ago, flipper11 said: Ive watched Drew at every Kent match this season & its true he does not seem to have the fire in his belly he had last year, that may be down to the pressure of riding in the main team at Sheffield more than not liking riding at Kent, he is of course still very young in speedway terms & will learn a lot from this year. I hope he returns for us because i feel the best has yet to come from him (sadly i doubt he will return though), Gilkes will not be going anywhere he is very happy with things at Kent & the supporters would go berserk if he went anywhere else! I spoke to Jordan last night & he is very happy at Kent & seems keen on his racing again. Mulford is nailed on (hopefully). Rowe i think will be No 1 next year, i don't think moving track will make any difference to him, he seems to ride well at every track. As for the others there will always be the end of season merry go round depending on averages same as every other track. The proposed dumbing down of the NL might exclude a few of those. Riders of a certain level might be forced up to ride in a watered down middle tier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 17 hours ago, flipper11 said: Ive watched Drew at every Kent match this season & its true he does not seem to have the fire in his belly he had last year, that may be down to the pressure of riding in the main team at Sheffield more than not liking riding at Kent, he is of course still very young in speedway terms & will learn a lot from this year. I hope he returns for us because i feel the best has yet to come from him (sadly i doubt he will return though), Gilkes will not be going anywhere he is very happy with things at Kent & the supporters would go berserk if he went anywhere else! I spoke to Jordan last night & he is very happy at Kent & seems keen on his racing again. Mulford is nailed on (hopefully). Rowe i think will be No 1 next year, i don't think moving track will make any difference to him, he seems to ride well at every track. As for the others there will always be the end of season merry go round depending on averages same as every other track. I also expect Rowe to be Kent’s number 1 next season and by the summer months I think they’ll have one of the best number 1s in the league and an NLRC contender. Mulford will definitely be back. Len is a loyal man so maybe men like Spooner and Ledwith might be back again despite neither being on attractive averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Islander15 said: I also expect Rowe to be Kent’s number 1 next season and by the summer months I think they’ll have one of the best number 1s in the league and an NLRC contender. Mulford will definitely be back. Len is a loyal man so maybe men like Spooner and Ledwith might be back again despite neither being on attractive averages. Given the mooted reduction once again it could be that Ledwith is the starting Number 1 next season, Spooner is likely to be back as he gets a good deal at Kent and i can't really see many other sides queuing up for him? Rowe has mastered Kent now and i think he will move on and upwards throughout the leagues and potentially miss out NL all together next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Islander15 said: I also expect Rowe to be Kent’s number 1 next season and by the summer months I think they’ll have one of the best number 1s in the league and an NLRC contender. Mulford will definitely be back. Len is a loyal man so maybe men like Spooner and Ledwith might be back again despite neither being on attractive averages. Would Len take a punt on likes of Stoneman; Wood; Coles; Perks if they became available??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 9:35 AM, cityrebel said: Gonna be tight to get all 30 heats done by curfew time. Good luck to all of those going. there isnt a curfew at monmore , if you go on fanpower a facebook group, you will see a letter from wolverhampton council stating no curfew, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, HGould said: Would Len take a punt on likes of Stoneman; Wood; Coles; Perks if they became available??. Can't really see it with any tbh. Perks too high? Wood retired, Stoneman & Coles to inconsistent although the latter has had a great end to the year. Although i suspect he might look elsewhere i could quite easily see Gilkes starting in the number 1 jacket if the team building averages dont drop stupidly low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, heathen chemistry said: there isnt a curfew at monmore , if you go on fanpower a facebook group, you will see a letter from wolverhampton council stating no curfew, Someone's telling porkys then. In the match report it stated a 'strict 10.30pm curfew' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Given the mooted reduction once again it could be that Ledwith is the starting Number 1 next season, Spooner is likely to be back as he gets a good deal at Kent and i can't really see many other sides queuing up for him? Rowe has mastered Kent now and i think he will move on and upwards throughout the leagues and potentially miss out NL all together next season. Rowe’s problem is he’s done so brilliantly in the Championship that I can’t see anyone taking him on that average. Like Perks the other season. However in the NL he’s still got some room for improvement to up himself from a number 5 to a stand out number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Rowe’s problem is he’s done so brilliantly in the Championship that I can’t see anyone taking him on that average. Like Perks the other season. However in the NL he’s still got some room for improvement to up himself from a number 5 to a stand out number 1. If the rumours of the NL Becoming an MDL type of training league are true, older riders like Ledwith might not be eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, cityrebel said: If the rumours of the NL Becoming an MDL type of training league are true, older riders like Ledwith might not be eligible. I guess much depends on the stipulation of what is required as a training league and if silly age restrictions are brought in? Higher end MSDL riders mixed with lower end NL riders would still be a saleable product (although make the jump to the next tier tougher). It may also force the lower end MSDL riders back to the amateur scene until they develop further but that may be no bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, cityrebel said: If the rumours of the NL Becoming an MDL type of training league are true, older riders like Ledwith might not be eligible. If the NL does become a type of MDL training League will people be prepared to pay £10, £12+ to watch riders learning to ride, I very much doubt it. The NL will suffer due to the incompetance of the BSPA, There should have been a break away from the BSPA years ago but Clubs/Teams were not prepared to grasp the nettle, the breakaway by the Provincial Leage from the National League in the early sixties forced the Perceived stronger National League to be realistic, then we had the amalgamation of the two Leagues which gave us a period of strong/good League racing for a number of years. Two of the worst things we have at the moment is doubling up/down, and Teams constantly changing riders, there is no bond being created between riders and fans its just watching seven riders wearing your teams colours for that particular meeting or that month, Team changes should be limited to 2 per season unless a rider is unavailable due to long term injury, or another possible suggestion could be that teams have a squad of 10 riders to pick there Team from with any 7 riders totaling a combined average of a certain number of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 With the lowering of standards in the top flight, i can see the NL being sacrificed to prop up the middle tier. Where would that leave the likes of Kent with their strict planning restrictions and the other stand alone clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, greyhoundp said: If the NL does become a type of MDL training League will people be prepared to pay £10, £12+ to watch riders learning to ride, I very much doubt it. The NL will suffer due to the incompetance of the BSPA, There should have been a break away from the BSPA years ago but Clubs/Teams were not prepared to grasp the nettle, the breakaway by the Provincial Leage from the National League in the early sixties forced the Perceived stronger National League to be realistic, then we had the amalgamation of the two Leagues which gave us a period of strong/good League racing for a number of years. Two of the worst things we have at the moment is doubling up/down, and Teams constantly changing riders, there is no bond being created between riders and fans its just watching seven riders wearing your teams colours for that particular meeting or that month, Team changes should be limited to 2 per season unless a rider is unavailable due to long term injury, or another possible suggestion could be that teams have a squad of 10 riders to pick there Team from with any 7 riders totaling a combined average of a certain number of points. The BSPA along with certain promotors are ruining speedway full stop not just the NL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes 2 minutes 2 minutes....The Bloke is pig thick ...Utterly clueless moron he could not run a bath let alone a sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: 2 minutes 2 minutes 2 minutes....The Bloke is pig thick ...Utterly clueless moron he could not run a bath let alone a sport. You like him then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 He is very frustrating and his points are usually wrong. I believe he used to race and seems to have a bitterness towards the powers that be and the sport as if it owes him a favour? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 Dont believe any Mark Robinson says, bloke is a complete idiot. Clueless idiot aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 15 hours ago, greyhoundp said: If the NL does become a type of MDL training League will people be prepared to pay £10, £12+ to watch riders learning to ride, I very much doubt it. The NL will suffer due to the incompetance of the BSPA, There should have been a break away from the BSPA years ago but Clubs/Teams were not prepared to grasp the nettle, the breakaway by the Provincial Leage from the National League in the early sixties forced the Perceived stronger National League to be realistic, then we had the amalgamation of the two Leagues which gave us a period of strong/good League racing for a number of years. Two of the worst things we have at the moment is doubling up/down, and Teams constantly changing riders, there is no bond being created between riders and fans its just watching seven riders wearing your teams colours for that particular meeting or that month, Team changes should be limited to 2 per season unless a rider is unavailable due to long term injury, or another possible suggestion could be that teams have a squad of 10 riders to pick there Team from with any 7 riders totaling a combined average of a certain number of points. Whilst i get what you are saying in reality the MDL style leagues should not contain riders that are learning to ride (although sadly in places it does) it should be riders who are bike competent and are honing their racing skills and techniques in preparation for the step up to the next level. The competent riders along with lower level NL riders would produce good racing as all you need for good entertainment is a raceable surface and competition that is of similar abilities. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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