SUPERACE Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: Really....he looks quite happy in all of his posts. Feet up, plenty of time at the airports etc. I would question why he was flying from Denmark to Belgium in the first place...even one of your hardened fans said it was dodgy Dodgy yes, can they prove it no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: If he wasn't injured you would have a NL rider like Lynn, surely ? The difference would be you get to use RR. I know RR didn't go well, but 6 +4 is a lot more than you would of got from a NL rider. Or am I missing something ( it wouldn't be the first time) I don't know the details about why Lambert couldn't make it, but if there was no way he could make it due to a delayed/cancelled flight and evidence of that, then I think should have been allowed R/R aswell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: Why are you arguing with me then, all I said was that he wasn’t injured & BV pulled a fast one. No you asked HOW Belle Vue were able to pull a fast one and, he explained HOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Rob B said: The problem is that they had to come up with the injured excuse to get the R/R. Surely if there is a genuine reason that he is delayed and they had the evidence then R/R should be granted without using the injury excuse. I agree with your point. It must be a delayed flight with documented proof. However, that’s not the rule that is currently in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: You definitely didn't go tonight then lol. I definitely did go. Have a look at my response to Rob, by BV standards there was little passing. Bend 4. Disabled section. You’ll find me there every home meeting ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, acef said: I definitely did go. Have a look at my response to Rob, by BV standards there was little passing. Bend 4. Disabled section. You’ll find me there every home meeting ;-) It was tongue in cheek, hence the lol at end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rob B said: The problem is that they had to come up with the injured excuse to get the R/R. Surely if there is a genuine reason that he is delayed and they had the evidence then R/R should be granted without using the injury excuse. This is the issue. By the rules, it is immoral. But it shouldn’t be. If missing a flight, or cancelled as it was, and then you’re alternate being delayed, means you have to use a junior, then the rule is wrong and needs changing. Cue the next reply, I’ll call it now, Jensen and Klindt got back blah blah blah. Yes I know, but there rearranged flights were not delayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: It was tongue in cheek, hence the lol at end My apologies. Im a little sensitive tonight for some odd reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pirate Nick said: I agree with your point. It must be a delayed flight with documented proof. However, that’s not the rule that is currently in place. Absolutely and the rule needs changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: If he wasn't injured you would have a NL rider like Lynn, surely ? The difference would be you get to use RR. I know RR didn't go well, but 6 +4 is a lot more than you would of got from a NL rider. Or am I missing something ( it wouldn't be the first time) You’re not missing anything BB. By the letter of the law BV have not so much broken the rules, just bent them. It’s a classic Poole stunt actually. It is the rule itself that needs adjusting. If a rider has genuinely missed his flight, made every effort to get on another, does so and that that is delayed as well, then common sense needs applying. Robert Lambert earlier is totally different. Pretty sure that is a case of Robert in a cant be arsed mode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, acef said: You’re not missing anything BB. By the letter of the law BV have not so much broken the rules, just bent them. It’s a classic Poole stunt actually. It is the rule itself that needs adjusting. If a rider has genuinely missed his flight, made every effort to get on another, does so and that that is delayed as well, then common sense needs applying. Robert Lambert earlier is totally different. Pretty sure that is a case of Robert in a cant be arsed mode. Too open to subjectivity. A major inherent problem in UK Speedway's rules.. (a perfect example of this is your opinion of Lamberts reasons).. Make the rules clear.. You don't turn up, you get banned for 28 days You produce a sick note, you miss 14 days to help you convalesce. (A caring organisation).. You produce a 2nd sick note in a season, you miss 28 days (a very caring organisation).. Poland seem to have all their riders arriving in time, from all parts of Europe every Friday, Saturday and Sunday.. I presume they just must be lucky mustn't they? Or are those (consequential) contracts they make the riders sign making Poland 'lucky'? Edited September 13, 2019 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 hours ago, hyabb17 said: Really....he looks quite happy in all of his posts. Feet up, plenty of time at the airports etc. I would question why he was flying from Denmark to Belgium in the first place...even one of your hardened fans said it was dodgy There could be a number of scheduling issues leading to unusual routes - just recently I collected a Premiership rider from Heathrow airport who would normally fly from Billund to Stansted but on this occasion had to fly Billund-Stockholm-Heathrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Have scored 55 and 58 against Aces this season at The Shabbey. Need to smash in some early 5-1s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Lets face it, if the Bjerre situation was a Poole rider in a play off match we would be up to 100 pages by now. BV have got away with one big time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Not the best of meeting's by the NSS standards but there was still some decent racing with Lidsey/Bewley exceptional.Heat seven where Bewley nearly split Musielak/ Jensen in one swoop was terrific and there was some real tight races where some riders could not quite land a blow.Heat 9 was the turning point when Lidsey/Bewley combined to get a 5.1 over Batchelor the Aces then went on to collect a well deserved win.The second leg is still a tough ask for the Aces but they have a little squeak great to see Bewley getting back slowly to form a really talented lad .Lidsey for me is a rider developing quickly and he will go on and will be nearing world class in the not to distant future.Came away last night thinking if we get Wolves i just hope we don't get mullered to badly in the first leg therefore making the second leg impossible to pull back the defecit we shall see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 It’s not the fact that Bjerre was missing that bothered me it was the fact it took them until around 9.00am today to inform the fans he was injured. He was listed to ride in the pre match review even commenting on the fact they had a full side for once. Personally I think it’s unforgivable in this day and age with social media available to everyone at a moments notice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: It’s not the fact that Bjerre was missing that bothered me it was the fact it took them until around 9.00am today to inform the fans he was injured. He was listed to ride in the pre match review even commenting on the fact they had a full side for once. Personally I think it’s unforgivable in this day and age with social media available to everyone at a moments notice. It was posted on Twitter and Facebook at 6.22pm last night he was injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) I wasn't happy about the Bjerre situation last night but I don't think that any rules were broken. Bjerre said on Twitter on Wednesday night that he had crashed in his last 2 races in Denmark and published on Instagram the photograph of him coming off the back of his bike. I have no doubt that he would have suffered injury as a result. On Thursday his flight was delayed by more than 2 and a half hours meaning he would miss the meeting. The were therefore two reasons for his absence and unsurprisingly Belle Vue decided to use the injury, which gave them the better facility of r/r. It was bending the rules but not in the way some have done to get in a better rider. We were weaker without him. The rule book needs to be rewritten but it isn't easy to legislate sensibly for every eventuality. The persistent rain meant that the racing was processional in the first half of the meeting but improved as the track dried out with some very good races. I didn't expect us to win by 8 without Bjerre but doubt it will be enough. Bewley and Lidsey were impressive as was Musielak who fought hard for his points. Edited September 13, 2019 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) We could have just used the rr anyway. Which qould have resulted in bjerre getting a ban and we could have used s guest thursdsy. So no difference really by saying he was injured Edited September 13, 2019 by Phil The Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: coming from a poole fan poole are off the scale for pulling fast ones enough said !! Just because he's a Poole and well done for recognising that he is a Poole fan, doesn't mean he agrees with everything Poole do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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