A ORLOV Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: We scored more at Peterborough than swindon did. So in my head that means an easy belle vue win. If you get a win at BV you then have to ride at Blunsdon where the last meeting ended 58 - 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: If you get a win at BV you then have to ride at Blunsdon where the last meeting ended 58 - 32. We don't have anything like that sort of home advantage and that is why Swindon are firm favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Not bothering with this one. Missing the play off has dampened my spirits somewhat! Lost interest so wont be attending. Would imagine swindon will win both legs actually. They have been threatening a win at the NSS all season. Even if its bv win, it will be marginal and not a prayer we are doing it over 2 legs. Shame the 2nd leg is away. Had we been within 10 points coming home then that may have lit a fire for a lot of people, as it is many just cant be assed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, acef said: Not bothering with this one. Missing the play off has dampened my spirits somewhat! Lost interest so wont be attending. Would imagine swindon will win both legs actually. They have been threatening a win at the NSS all season. Even if its bv win, it will be marginal and not a prayer we are doing it over 2 legs. Shame the 2nd leg is away. Had we been within 10 points coming home then that may have lit a fire for a lot of people, as it is many just cant be assed So you’re a Belle Vue fan, living in Manchester and your team have made a cup final. Their opponents tonight feature a recent world champion and are considered to be amongst one of the top teams in the country. Two top teams racing on what’s said to be the top track in the country and you can’t be bothered. Are you sure youre you’re a speedway fan ? 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 47 minutes ago, acef said: Not bothering with this one. Missing the play off has dampened my spirits somewhat! Lost interest so wont be attending. Would imagine swindon will win both legs actually. They have been threatening a win at the NSS all season. Even if its bv win, it will be marginal and not a prayer we are doing it over 2 legs. Shame the 2nd leg is away. Had we been within 10 points coming home then that may have lit a fire for a lot of people, as it is many just cant be assed Wow - I'm gobsmacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jonny the spud said: So you’re a Belle Vue fan, living in Manchester and your team have made a cup final. Their opponents tonight feature a recent world champion and are considered to be amongst one of the top teams in the country. Two top teams racing on what’s said to be the top track in the country and you can’t be bothered. Are you sure youre you’re a speedway fan ? Does make you wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 There are loads stating they are not going. Will be the smallest ever final crowd. Not sure why. As you say. It's a final. And a chance to win a trophy. I'll be at both legs. Come on aces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 The Premiership season has ended in disaster but this is a final so we need to be cheering the lads on. In it to win it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: There are loads stating they are not going. Will be the smallest ever final crowd. Not sure why. As you say. It's a final. And a chance to win a trophy. I'll be at both legs. Come on aces Makes me laugh when people moan non stop about less meetings every year and thats a reason why people lose the bug for speedway. Then you get a cup final, decent weather, 2 good teams and the last meeting until March and people don't go!!! Absolute madness!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 I must say aswell. There are 60 Swindon fans travelling up. Fantastic support and will show us up. They will outnumber us today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABS Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: There are loads stating they are not going. Will be the smallest ever final crowd. Not sure why. As you say. It's a final. And a chance to win a trophy. I'll be at both legs. Come on aces I will be there - I expect a full house in our little section!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 A lot of them will be wearing orange and white scarves..with chants of "Lee and Aluns Tangerine Army"!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: So you’re a Belle Vue fan, living in Manchester and your team have made a cup final. Their opponents tonight feature a recent world champion and are considered to be amongst one of the top teams in the country. Two top teams racing on what’s said to be the top track in the country and you can’t be bothered. Are you sure youre you’re a speedway fan ? This board really is full of stay on do gooders. We live in a world where custom essentially has to be purchased. Many people have lost there love with this sport, its proved by the huge decline of it. A sports team needs to show ambition and be competitive. BV have not done that this season so they haven't met my expectations. Why should I part with my cash when that is the case? The sport is competing for the general pound and there are better offerings available. You really have to work hard for your customers today and many speedway clubs simply dont do it. If you are willing to just carry on regardless then that is your prerogative, but it's not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Wow - I'm gobsmacked There is no need to be gobsmacked. It's a pretty simple situation as I have explained above. Many many speedway fans, thousands upon thousands, share my thought process. I will be as committed and as ambitious as the promotion. When they dont meet my expectations then I will not meet theirs. Why should I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 I like acef cannot drum up any enthusiasm for this meeting, it will be touch & go whether I go tonight. Nothing to do with it being the KO Cup. Perhaps it is because the management made poor team building decisions at the beginning and during the season and did not make changes when it became obvious they were needed. If miracles do happen then Belle Vue are going to need one to win this trophy over two legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: There are loads stating they are not going. Will be the smallest ever final crowd. Not sure why. As you say. It's a final. And a chance to win a trophy. I'll be at both legs. Come on aces Who are the loads stating they are not going?There is only one on here.Why would anyone go to previous rounds and then not bother with the final? If it's because we might lose them it's a lame excuse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, acef said: This board really is full of stay on do gooders. We live in a world where custom essentially has to be purchased. Many people have lost there love with this sport, its proved by the huge decline of it. A sports team needs to show ambition and be competitive. BV have not done that this season so they haven't met my expectations. Why should I part with my cash when that is the case? The sport is competing for the general pound and there are better offerings available. You really have to work hard for your customers today and many speedway clubs simply dont do it. If you are willing to just carry on regardless then that is your prerogative, but it's not mine. Although I kind of see your point about management decisions and a come down after missing playoffs, this is still a cup final, it’s not a meaningless challenge meeting at end of season. It’s the last senior meeting of the season and with the current owners 3 year deal coming to an end it could be a winter or uncertainty again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Regards tonight meeting, the different race format going make things different. With the normal race race format I would have been confident of around a 12 point win, both previous meetings Doyle has had a tactical ride that he won’t have tonight. But with reserves only having 3 rides and top 4 having 5 rides this should be in Swindon’s favour. Ellis and Musielak can’t be as bad as last time but Bewley is riding better. Swindon have changed round riding order moving Batchelor to 3 which is correct thing to do with this race format, disappointed Belle Vue have left theirs. Bjerre had 2 crashes to finish off in Denmark last night so think he will be feeling sore. Edited September 12, 2019 by Rob B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rob B said: Although I kind of see your point about management decisions and a come down after missing playoffs, this is still a cup final, it’s not a meaningless challenge meeting at end of season. It’s the last senior meeting of the season and with the current owners 3 year deal coming to an end it could be a winter or uncertainty again. I cant see any viable way that they could stay in the present climate unless they continue to put there own money into it. I agree it's a big meeting, what has gone before has made it difficult for people to reason coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rob B said: Swindon have changed round riding order moving Batchelor to 3 which is correct thing to do with this race format, disappointed Belle Vue have left theirs. Its little things like this that are SO frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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