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5 minutes ago, Midland Red said:

Those would be the fans who find it difficult or impossible to attend on a Monday or a Thursday, when their regular night was a Friday or Saturday, and they and their kids could attend

The fixed nights only really suited fans of teams who always used to race on a Monday or a Thursday - and of course those teams didn’t ride on both nights, so even then some (say) Thursday regulars would be missing on the Monday, and vice versa

No points having fixed race nights if riders are going to be missing on the nights you go on about that was the whole idea .. Friday and Sat have  little  affect on crowds anymore the stats show you that .

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4 hours ago, iainb said:

So again... In which sport other than Speedway do the away team get more league points for a draw than the home team?

... Apology accepted

 

In which other sports do home teams enjoy the type of home advantage that speedway teams do?

 

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The biggest issue is the lack of riders available.... 

If you look at my suggestion of having a Super League of 12 clubs with a commonwealth reserve at no.7 all season

To fill the 6 places without the no.7 would be 12 x 6 = 72 riders

I've just about managed to name 72 exactly on the list below.....

Aarnio
Allen
Andersen H
Andersen K
Auty
Ayres
Bacon
Barker
Batchelor
Bates
Becker
Bellego
Berge
Bewley
Bjerre K
Bjerre L
Clegg
Cook
Covatti
Doolan
Douglas
Doyle
Ellis
Etheridge
Fricke
Gappmaier
Garrity
Grajczonek
Harris
Heeps
Holder C
Holder J
Howarth
Iversen
Jakobsen
Jensen R
Jonasson
Jorgensen
Kennett
Kerr
King
Klindt
Kurtz B
Kurtz T
Lambert R
Lawson
Lidsey
Masters
Morris N
Musielak
Newman
Nicholls
Ostergaard
Palm Toft
Palovaara
Pickering
Pieszcezek
Porsing
Proctor
Riss E
Schlein
Stewart
Summers
Thorsell
Tungate
Vissing
Wells
Wethers
Wilson-Deab
Worral R
Worral S

Wright

 

Then I have said name 16 no.7's and clubs can pick one each and 4 would be left as "reserves" to cover injury etc. and obviously ride in the NL

 

I have managed to come up with 18 names

Sarjeant

Perks

Wajtknecht

Shanes

Nielsen

Morris A

Flint

Hume

Wood

Bowtell

Bickley

Mountain

Thomas

Greaves

Smith

Kennedy

Kemp

Rowe

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, orion said:

What nights would you have  gone for ? knowing that the top league can't used weekends

Ahh... Well this is where I would have broken away from the other countries. We're currently rock bottom and something drastic needed/needs doing. I would have gone for Friday and Saturday night

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18 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

In which other sports do home teams enjoy the type of home advantage that speedway teams do?

 

I don't know, that's not my point. My point is a draw is a draw... Except in Speedway

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10 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said:

The biggest issue is the lack of riders available.... 

If you look at my suggestion of having a Super League of 12 clubs with a commonwealth reserve at no.7 all season

To fill the 6 places without the no.7 would be 12 x 6 = 72 riders

I've just about managed to name 72 exactly on the list below.....

Aarnio
Allen
Andersen H
Andersen K
Auty
Ayres
Bacon
Barker
Batchelor
Bates
Becker
Bellego
Berge
Bewley
Bjerre K
Bjerre L
Clegg
Cook
Covatti
Doolan
Douglas
Doyle
Ellis
Etheridge
Fricke
Gappmaier
Garrity
Grajczonek
Harris
Heeps
Holder C
Holder J
Howarth
Iversen
Jakobsen
Jensen R
Jonasson
Jorgensen
Kennett
Kerr
King
Klindt
Kurtz B
Kurtz T
Lambert R
Lawson
Lidsey
Masters
Morris N
Musielak
Newman
Nicholls
Ostergaard
Palm Toft
Palovaara
Pickering
Pieszcezek
Porsing
Proctor
Riss E
Schlein
Stewart
Summers
Thorsell
Tungate
Vissing
Wells
Wethers
Wilson-Deab
Worral R
Worral S

Wright

 

Then I have said name 16 no.7's and clubs can pick one each and 4 would be left as "reserves" to cover injury etc. and obviously ride in the NL

 

I have managed to come up with 18 names

Sarjeant

Perks

Wajtknecht

Shanes

Nielsen

Morris A

Flint

Hume

Wood

Bowtell

Bickley

Mountain

Thomas

Greaves

Smith

Kennedy

Kemp

Rowe

 

 

 

Interesting list - well done

How many of those couldn’t race in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night?

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2 hours ago, Midland Red said:

Serious question - in what way was it flawed?

It suited those with a bigger home track advantage.

I never really had a problem with it, but if you ask most what it's purpose was the answer will be to keep interest in a meeting alive (score wise) for longer..  Well the current system does that far better.

Where they shot themselves in the foot is scrapping the extra pt a home team got for winning by more than 6.. now 46-44 is as good as 49-41. The reasoning being home fans supposedly went home unhappy if they missed out on the extra pt after winning a meeting....

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11 minutes ago, iainb said:

I don't know, that's not my point. My point is a draw is a draw... Except in Speedway

 

No.

In rugby, if one team gets four tries and the other team does not, but the match is drawn, the first team gets 3 points and the other 2.

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3 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

No.

In rugby, if one team gets four tries and the other team does not, but the match is drawn, the first team gets 3 points and the other 2.

It's already been explained to him, but it's to no avail.

He's already admitted he gets confused between the numbers 6 and 7 so there isn't much hope getting any reasoning from him other than.. "It's ridiculous".

He might spin you a yarn about a full pub rolling around the floor in laughter when he mentioned the speedway scoring system one night to back up his "Ridiculous" and "In what other sport" claim...

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23 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

No.

In rugby, if one team gets four tries and the other team does not, but the match is drawn, the first team gets 3 points and the other 2.

They're bonus points... As already discussed

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20 minutes ago, BWitcher said:

It's already been explained to him, but it's to no avail.

He's already admitted he gets confused between the numbers 6 and 7 so there isn't much hope getting any reasoning from him other than.. "It's ridiculous".

He might spin you a yarn about a full pub rolling around the floor in laughter when he mentioned the speedway scoring system one night to back up his "Ridiculous" and "In what other sport" claim...

Again, if you'd read it properly you'd see that I'm not confused by it... I just can't remember it.

What does confuse me is whether you can't read properly or can't think properly... I'm beginning to think it's probably both.

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4 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

Well, a speedway draw gives 1 point to each team, plus a bonus point for the away team. Does that help?

It maybe semantics but it is fact. In Speedway it's league points in the other sports mentioned they're bonus points, for reaching set goals during a match

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41 minutes ago, Midland Red said:

Interesting list - well done

How many of those couldn’t race in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night?

I would imagine quite a few couldn't race on a Friday or Saturday night

If this is the way British speedway wants to go then there will be about 6 clubs left battling it out 

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