BWitcher Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, moxey63 said: OK. If you don't understand something, best not to comment. Interest is retained in each individual meeting for longer on a more frequent basis. More meaningful races, more last heat deciders. In no way shape or form can that be deemed a 'bad thing'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: If you don't understand something, best not to comment. Interest is retained in each individual meeting for longer on a more frequent basis. More meaningful races, more last heat deciders. In no way shape or form can that be deemed a 'bad thing'. Ok, BWitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Maybe a scoring system can be invented where all races are meaningful holding people's interest for the whole meeting. So maybe something like a point for a 3 3, 2 for a 4 2 and 3 for a 5 1. Prob rubbish idea but hey ho. Edited September 8, 2019 by Baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, moxey63 said: Ok, BWitcher. Leave it, the guy's a bully Edited September 8, 2019 by iainb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, iainb said: Leave it, the guy's a bully Knows more than Google. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 5:52 PM, moxey63 said: Knows more than Google. But less than Humphrey Appleby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 I would think changing the points awarded in league matches will cure all of speedways ills! Personally I think the sport is now to far gone and such a poor way that its in its final throws and by the mid 2020s will be a thing of the past. The only saviour will be a complete and radical overhall this winter but that is something that has never happened so won't this time around. Those of you who still go and enjoy it please enjoy it while it lasts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) But what is radical ovethaul? I've always wondered with all the hours it's been on TV, how it's never found a sponsor that would put even the smallest amount of money in.. Edited September 11, 2019 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Baldyman said: But what is radical ovethaul? Whatever it is I’m pretty sure the current bunch of promoters are incapable of coming up with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Am I right in thinking that any recent demises of speedway clubs has been down to the stadium availability rather than if the speedway itself breaks even or fails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Baldyman said: But what is radical ovethaul? I've always wondered with all the hours it's been on TV, how it's never found a sponsor that would put even the smallest amount of money in.. It may have been on tv for years but if you were running a business would you want to be associated with it at a national level? When the big sky money was coming in and our league was beamed into Poland that is the point that the sport should have been completely rebuilt top to bottom and ran as a professional sport. The operating model from Poland would have been a good starting point. At that time the sport could have afforded to go a different route. Sadly those days have long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Baldyman said: But what is radical ovethaul? I've always wondered with all the hours it's been on TV, how it's never found a sponsor that would put even the smallest amount of money in.. A toxic brand sadly BM... You only have to look at many of the TV matches... Rows and rows of empty seats, standing areas bereft of anyone actually stood there.. Companies want only positive brand association, as their name will resonate in the sub conscious of those watching.. Add also the fact that a company could sponsor a team with a significant sum of money and then find that their support will be rewarded by their number one rider (who will invariably be the chief beneficiary of their patronage), being actively allowed to destroy his own team's chances of winning the league by riding for any other team in the league, and you really have a hard sell to persuade any self respecting nationally known business to come on board.. Edited September 11, 2019 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Am I right in thinking that any recent demises of speedway clubs has been down to the stadium availability rather than if the speedway itself breaks even or fails? That is true. However if you own a stadium or land that stages a sport that has been in decline for at least 20 years and shows no signs of turning around would you turn down offers for your property? Equally the state the sport is in its hardly high up on council or private landowners radars for new sites. Building a new stadium for the use of a few hundred supporters for 6 months a year doesn't make much sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Bspa want too much money from a title sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Nothing ever happens so this radical overhaul talk is pie in the sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 The only thing that may happen is admission increase 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: The only thing that may happen is admission increase Take it you mean the price of admission not an increase in number of people admitted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, RS50 said: Take it you mean the price of admission not an increase in number of people admitted ? Correct Ipswich crowds are easily up from last few seasons though Edited September 12, 2019 by Baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Pity the latter would be welcomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 7:01 PM, mikebv said: Add also the fact that a company could sponsor a team with a significant sum of money and then find that their support will be rewarded by their number one rider (who will invariably be the chief beneficiary of their patronage), being actively allowed to destroy his own team's chances of winning the league by riding for any other team in the league, and you really have a hard sell to persuade any self respecting nationally known business to come on board.. There used to massive sponsors deals when the same thing happened all the time so not why that's a issue now when it never used to be ..unless guests are a new thing in speedway of course . In fact with fixed race nights its even less likely to happen now .. It's makes you wonder how they got sponsors in the old days ..maybe they never told them about guest riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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