Redcar v eastbourne koc semi finals 6/7 sept

[woofers]

1 hour ago, leander said:

How? The rules are clear and the same for everyone. Why should Eastbourne be any different?

Errrr, apparently they aren’t clear.

There is a ‘new rule’, not in the rule book, that has been used to prevent Eastbourne from using / signing Danyon Hume. I believe Eastbourne have appealed but, a week later, haven’t heard from the BSPA regarding this.

So, not so clear after all is it ?

Edited September 7, 2019 by woofers

[woofers]

Purely academic to the outcome of the meeting, but what’s the penalty for riding across the centre green ?

“5.4.4 No Motorcycle may be ridden on the Infield nor in the Pits (except the designated area)”

After being informed that he was excluded from Heat 15 for a second tapes offence, Riss rode across the centre green / infield before returning to the track on the backstraight and lining up off a 15 metre handicap.

Should he have been excluded from the race ?

[johnyson66]

16 minutes ago, woofers said:

Errrr, apparently they aren’t clear.

There is a ‘new rule’, not in the rule book, that has been used to prevent Eastbourne from using / signing Danyon Hume. I believe Eastbourne have appealed but, a week later, haven’t heard from the BSPA regarding this.

So, not so clear after all is it ?

You lost over 2 legs with the worst track in the history of British speedway,  we were better than you from the off its simple stop crying 

[johnyson66]

7 minutes ago, woofers said:

Purely academic to the outcome of the meeting, but what’s the penalty for riding across the centre green ?

“5.4.4 No Motorcycle may be ridden on the Infield nor in the Pits (except the designated area)”

After being informed that he was excluded from Heat 15 for a second tapes offence, Riss rode across the centre green / infield before returning to the track on the backstraight and lining up off a 15 metre handicap.

Should he have been excluded from the race ?

Didn't matter Eastbourne were already beaten on aggregate any way mighty bears came they saw they conquered,  anything else you want to whinge about while we are on , just a reminder in case you've forgotten KOCF REDCAR BEARS V NEWCASTLE DIAMONDS 

[johnyson66]

With Wrighty back we are heavy favourites for the cup , can we make it a league and cup double to go with the 2 individual championships of Wrighty and Riss , happy days being a Bears fan at the minute 

[cityrebel]

4 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Where was everybody? 

Watching England and the GP, probably.

[foamfence]

7 hours ago, woofers said:

Errrr, apparently they aren’t clear.

There is a ‘new rule’, not in the rule book, that has been used to prevent Eastbourne from using / signing Danyon Hume. I believe Eastbourne have appealed but, a week later, haven’t heard from the BSPA regarding this.

So, not so clear after all is it ?

Is that the same rule that stopped Redcar signing Wallinger?

[HGould]

4 hours ago, cityrebel said:

Watching England and the GP, probably.

Eastbourne been having excellent crowds probably as good as any in CL other than Glasgow - pics look like decent crowd again??

[cityrebel]

6 minutes ago, HGould said:

Eastbourne been having excellent crowds probably as good as any in CL other than Glasgow - pics look like decent crowd again??

I thought the crowd was pretty decent. Not as big as i expected, but the live sport on TV must have had some impact.

[ruckerroo]

Crowd was ok , atmosphere a bit muted due to the enormity of the task from ht 2 onwards

[Bagpuss]

I’m all for riders stepping up and the higher league taking priority for the sake of their development but I can also see the sense in blocking signings late in the season if home race nights clash between CL and NL. 

[Fortythirtyeight]

11 hours ago, woofers said:

Errrr, apparently they aren’t clear.

There is a ‘new rule’, not in the rule book, that has been used to prevent Eastbourne from using / signing Danyon Hume. I believe Eastbourne have appealed but, a week later, haven’t heard from the BSPA regarding this.

So, not so clear after all is it ?

Must be one them same rules that stopped Bears signing Wallinger or having a guest or R/R for Riss riding in a German League fixture?

If you're not in the BSPA mafia, then don't expect any favours.

Congratulations to the Bears , will be great to have two north east teams in a cup final.

Saw the first leg at Redcar and thought this would be a tight affair.

For me the difference was Nathan Greaves who scores , strangely,  well away from home and his points made the difference when the pressure was on.

Eagles performed well but the heat leaders appear to be a little too inconsistent at times. That will always hinder you with weak second strings/ reserves.

Edited September 8, 2019 by Fortythirtyeight

[IronScorpion]

12 hours ago, woofers said:

Purely academic to the outcome of the meeting, but what’s the penalty for riding across the centre green ?

“5.4.4 No Motorcycle may be ridden on the Infield nor in the Pits (except the designated area)”

After being informed that he was excluded from Heat 15 for a second tapes offence, Riss rode across the centre green / infield before returning to the track on the backstraight and lining up off a 15 metre handicap.

Should he have been excluded from the race ?

I think that was one of a couple of rules dropped this year. A fine is applied this year depending in which league he/she is racing in.

[cityrebel]

27 minutes ago, IronScorpion said:

I think that was one of a couple of rules dropped this year. A fine is applied this year depending in which league he/she is racing in.

A few weeks ago at King's Lynn i saw a rider go direct to the tapes in a clockwise direction. This used to be an exclusion, but no action was taken.

[Yearbyred]

Some comments from Redcar promoter re Eastbourne which I thought were worth sharing. Hear a lot about the negative stuff so worth highlighting the good.

Duffill also had words of praise for Eastbourne after what has been an excellent two meetings: 

“It takes 2 teams to make a great meeting and I have a lot of respect for the Eastbourne team and their promotion who were excellent opposition and were nothing but gracious and complimentary in their defeat. We witnessed true sportsmanship this evening and I can’t thank them and their supporters enough for that.”

[GWC]

16 hours ago, KEITH M said:

I was there last night and I would of also put Kerr into heat 15 instead of Kennett 

It was Kerr and Lawson in ht 15 and got Eastbourne’s only 5-1 of the meeting.

Kennett didn’t look right maybe carrying injury.

[HGould]

2 hours ago, Yearbyred said:

Some comments from Redcar promoter re Eastbourne which I thought were worth sharing. Hear a lot about the negative stuff so worth highlighting the good.

Duffill also had words of praise for Eastbourne after what has been an excellent two meetings: 

“It takes 2 teams to make a great meeting and I have a lot of respect for the Eastbourne team and their promotion who were excellent opposition and were nothing but gracious and complimentary in their defeat. We witnessed true sportsmanship this evening and I can’t thank them and their supporters enough for that.”

I think Eagles got a real bum rap from the Cook and Lanning mafia after the now infamous brawl there. Having been there several times this season, I think Jittendra Duffills assessment is far more the reality than the storm that followed Glasgow.

Definitely a nice and welcoming venue and I look forward to Brummies 3rd trip of the season there at the end of the month. I understand that Brummies fans will have free admittance too as a generous mark of respect from the Eagles Management; for cancelling the planned match (coincidentally the infamous 3 August Glasgow match) at short notice on BSPA instructions - which cost some Brummies fans wasted hotel booking.  

[cityrebel]

2 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Will be interesting to see what the verdict is on Craig Cook when his appeal is heard on Friday (according to Daily Star).

If he gets away without a ban, when Kennett and Vissing were both suspended, there will be uproar. 

I would add, if the appeal system works similarly to UK courts, if you lose an appeal you put yourself in jeopardy of getting a longer sentence than the original.

I will be glued to the screen on Friday waiting for news.

You'll still be stuck there a week later!

[erimus11]

7 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Two great meetings, both ridden in the right spirit.

Couldn't agree more.

The Eagles fans were fair and magnanimous in defeat.

I thought it was a  very good turnout of Redcar fans, given the distance involved and the fact that we had another away day today at Scunny.

to round it all off last night, it was a  Bears fan who won the £100 race day programme 

[The Doctor...]

9 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Will be interesting to see what the verdict is on Craig Cook when his appeal is heard on Friday (according to Daily Star).

If he gets away without a ban, when Kennett and Vissing were both suspended, there will be uproar. 

I would add, if the appeal system works similarly to UK courts, if you lose an appeal you put yourself in jeopardy of getting a longer sentence than the original.

I will be glued to the screen on Friday waiting for news.

I believe the defence Cook has lined up is one based on a technicality and it wouldn't surprise me if he got off.  Perhaps due to how the events were dealt with on the night itself. Just a theory tho - would be risky to put the intricacies of it here tho really.