Peterborough v Belle Vue 5/9/2019

[Mark]

38 minutes ago, iainb said:

something like:

£17k-£18k a match in Poland

£4k-£5k a match in Sweden

£1k-£2k a match in Britain

around £10k for winning a GP

ish

Without play off's its 14 league matches in Poland so that is around quarter of a million plus sponsorship money.  Top riders must be earning fortunes now the Polish TV money has gone through the ceiling.

Getting rough £1500 in the UK isn't on a par but there are not many jobs where you can earn that much in one evening.  Plus the rider would have sponsorships over here to.    When Ward was riding he would have done about 35 to 40 meetings.   

Edited September 6, 2019 by Mark

[LisaColette]

1 minute ago, Mark said:

14 league matches in Poland that is around quarter of a million plus sponsorship money.   Top riders must be earning fortunes now the Polish TV money has gone through the ceiling.

Getting rough £1500 in the UK isn't on a par but there are not many jobs where you can earn that much in one evening.  Plus the rider would have sponsorships over here.   When Ward was riding he would have done about 35 to 40 meetings.   

Yeah just look at Nicki P's house when he puts pictures/videos up on Instagram!! 

[IainB]

19 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Yeah just look at Nicki P's house when he puts pictures/videos up on Instagram!! 

It's that the one in Monaco?

[LisaColette]

23 minutes ago, iainb said:

It's that the one in Monaco?

No different one now, think it's back in Denmark. Think it was built to spec. 

If you watch some of the instagram stories of his today, shows the views he has. Pretty amazing. Gotta be Poland money...? 

Edited September 6, 2019 by lisa-colette

[stevebrum]

2 hours ago, Wolfie456 said:

Hes already suggested he may give Sweden a miss next year 

Really? Interesting development if so.

[SPEEDY69]

36 minutes ago, Mark said:

Without play off's its 14 league matches in Poland so that is around quarter of a million plus sponsorship money.  Top riders must be earning fortunes now the Polish TV money has gone through the ceiling.

Getting rough £1500 in the UK isn't on a par but there are not many jobs where you can earn that much in one evening.  Plus the rider would have sponsorships over here to.    When Ward was riding he would have done about 35 

Lindgren lives/lived in Andorra, maybe for tax reasons! 

Edited September 6, 2019 by SPEEDY69
Wrong

[DBP]

1 hour ago, bellevueace said:

Yes we know about the money so the racing on those big fast polish tracks must be so poor as the riders just have to take their brains out and turn the throttle im surprised the numbers on the terraces actually bother. I remember going from Hyde road to Kirky lane, now we are at the NSS the crappy racing was at Kirky lane, when we were at the dog track we tried to convince ourselves the racing was better due to the tighter track and riders having to have more technical ability, we were kidding ourselves, the best racing by far was at Hyde road and now the NSS, absolutely no comparison, after all the clue is in the name, speedway.

Every meeting at  Hyde road  was not a great meeting it produced good and poor meetings and the dog track had some excellent as well as poor meetings just as the NSS is not great every meeting 

Yes there are some really good heats but plenty are follow the leader from the gate

[Aces51]

1 hour ago, DBP said:

Every meeting at  Hyde road  was not a great meeting it produced good and poor meetings and the dog track had some excellent as well as poor meetings just as the NSS is not great every meeting 

Yes there are some really good heats but plenty are follow the leader from the gate

 It is true that all tracks produce good and poor meetings but there is no comparison between the quality of racing at the dog track and either Hyde Road or the NSS. Both of the latter more often than not produce(d) good entertaining meetings with fast, close racing, with genuine passing after bends 1 and 2.  The dog track more often than not produced slower, spread out, racing with much less passing after bends 1 and 2 and a significant percentage of that passing was due to rider mistakes rather than riders being able to use multiple racing lines. 

Edited September 6, 2019 by Aces51

[bellevueace]

When i made my original comment about teams preferring to come to the NSS rather than Wolves that was based on my belief Wolves are more formidable round their own patch than we are, no mention about the tracks at all, I think Biowulf became defensive hence his comments. No track ever has produced exceptional racing every meeting that's just impossible, but given the option I would take aHyde Road or NSS over Kirky Lane any day, Aces 51 sums it up perfectly 

[Speedtiger]

1 hour ago, bellevueace said:

When i made my original comment about teams preferring to come to the NSS rather than Wolves that was based on my belief Wolves are more formidable round their own patch than we are, no mention about the tracks at all, I think Biowulf became defensive hence his comments. No track ever has produced exceptional racing every meeting that's just impossible, but given the option I would take aHyde Road or NSS over Kirky Lane any day, Aces 51 sums it up perfectly 

Agree. I’m not being critical of Wolves as CVS runs a good stadium and credit where’s its due BUT Monmore is really a trick track and stadium good as it is...is not as good as NSS. 

[stevebrum]

16 minutes ago, Speedtiger said:

Agree. I’m not being critical of Wolves as CVS runs a good stadium and credit where’s its due BUT Monmore is really a trick track and stadium good as it is...is not as good as NSS. 

Without question. However that’s taking nothing away from the fact that Monmore has produced some stunning races over the years.

[Arch Stanton]

On 9/4/2019 at 9:54 PM, geoff58 said:

a minimum of 1 point maybe enough for Aces if ipswich lose there next two matches home to swindon away to poole which is highly likely!!

Oh Geoffrey..

LOL

[geoff100]

14 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

No different one now, think it's back in Denmark. Think it was built to spec. 

If you watch some of the instagram stories of his today, shows the views he has. Pretty amazing. Gotta be Poland money...? 

Yes but it stops in a couple of years living off savings dont last forever!

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

On 9/4/2019 at 9:54 PM, geoff58 said:

a minimum of 1 point maybe enough for Aces if ipswich lose there next two matches home to swindon away to poole which is highly likely!!

Is Geoff on holiday? Perhaps Shovvy sent him a recommendation for Rome.....

[bellevueace]

11 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Without question. However that’s taking nothing away from the fact that Monmore has produced some stunning races over the years.

I've seen many a good meeting at Monmore Steve I don't go with this big tracks are better than smaller tracks thing, each track has its own characteristics which means riders have to adapt different skills, that's why it was always said foreign riders need to ride in the UK in order to develop. As Ivan Mauger once said every track is there to be ridden. Wolves are a very well run club and I think can go all the way in the play offs, that was my original point nothing to do with tracks at all, that wasn't brought up by me. Good luck in the play offs, I wouldn't mind seeing you go all the way.