Panthers89 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Well with Niels/Zagar and Fricke qualifying for the 2020 series, the series could end up looking like: 1. Niels (Den) 2. Zagar (Slo) 3. Fricke (Aus) 4. Madsen (Den) 5. Zmarszlik (Pol) 6. Emil (Rus) 7. Lindgren (Swe) 8. Dudek (Pol) 9. Vaculik (Slov) I think it leaves 2 from the below: Janowski (Pol), Laguta (Rus), Kolodziej (Pol), Doyle (Aus) Which then leaves the wildcards as: Tai (GB), Doyle (Aus), Lindback (Swe) and Lambert (GB) Certainly familiar faces anyway! Edited August 24, 2019 by Panthers89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1234 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Where’s Vaculik in your table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Also, no Hancock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Welwyn said: Also, no Hancock? Will retire IMO or concentrate on Sweden if he comes back at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 I thought Hancock was riding in the next GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Fricke ok, but the other two? Yawn. Edited August 24, 2019 by Steve Shovlar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Fricke ok, but the other two? Yawn. Completely agree, same old tbh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Perhaps it is time to change the format with a pool of riders selected to ride in say four GPs each then the top scorers from those GPs go on to compete in a qualifier for the final. This give the opportunity to include more riders not just the 8 plus the hand picked excuses and then with a revised format they can then be whittled them down based on form to a final sixteen where the points scoring is changed to say 4,3,2,0. Anything that gets more riders competing not just the same old names has to be good . Leon Madsen is a case in point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 And where did Madsen qualify from ......... err..... the Challenge wasn’t it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, OveFundinFan said: And where did Madsen qualify from ......... err..... the Challenge wasn’t it No- Wildcard 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Ok, got it wrong, but there are still wild cards for 2020. Just that for next year wild cards are going to be tight. Tai (current world champ), Greg (record over many years and qualified for 2019), Doyle (world champ 2017 and nearly 2016) are worthy of consideration. Who else could be in for a wcard. Possibly Janowski, ALaguta, Kolodzei plus who ? Someone who would add value to a tough 10 GP series. who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, james1234 said: Where’s Vaculik in your table 9th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Panthers89 said: Completely agree, same old tbh! Still better than the rest though.! A lot of riders crumble under pressure at challenge over the years.Its not Zagar and Iversens fault if the can’t beat them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Must say I'd rather have Zagar and Iversen back, than Bjerre and Harris ! Smolinski came close, too, but the start marshall waved him off with the checkered flag after only three laps when he was winning his second race, and instead of another three points in his pocket, he earned himself an exclusion in the re-run. Tough luck for the German Champion ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Fricke ok, but the other two? Yawn. Yes lets have riders like Aspgren and Pavlic and Bjerre and Michelson ...riders who didnt qualify and beaten by better riders in Iversen and Zager I want the top 15 in the world and Zagar and Iversen certainly are right now Please enlighten us as to who you would have that would make the series better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 For me Lindback will not get a wild card Madsen, Zmarzlik, Emil, Vaculik, Freddie, Dudek.............those 6 seem safe Magic, Laguta, Kolodziej, Doyle........2 of those 4 will qualify Tai and Hancock will get 2 wildcards I would imagine the other 2 wildcards could be the 2 riders that dont make it out of the 4 i listed 7th, 8th 9th and 10th (currently Kolodziej and Doyle) The only other rider who may be considered is Lambert , but i only see him getting a wildcard if firstly Greg retires or secondly the organisers dont go for Laguta or Kolodziej if they finish outside the top 8 People with a lack of knowledge bang on about 'new blood'..would love the names of these 'new blood ' riders who could make the series better and be competitive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Michelson would be good to watch and would score points. He would be the only one I would like to see in the GP's from the younger guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) What I struggle to understand is why people complain about the current format, qualifying system etc. Because quite simply if it comes to 4 riders on a track accumulating points the best will always be at the top. There’s been many different scoring systems in the GPs since 1995 and to my knowledge it’s yet to make someone who wasn’t the best riders be at the top of the score charts come the end of the season. As for the qualifying I’m not sure how anyone can complain. Everyone is given a equal opportunity to qualify. Sometimes it throws a few surprises. Last night the top 4 were no real shock but that is sport and whether you like them or not they are the riders who earned it by right. The last 2 GPS have been two of the best there’s ever been so the personnel is fine. The main issue right now is staging GPs in venues worthy of such a competition. Edited August 25, 2019 by RPNY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Carter Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Gavan said: For me Lindback will not get a wild card Madsen, Zmarzlik, Emil, Vaculik, Freddie, Dudek.............those 6 seem safe Magic, Laguta, Kolodziej, Doyle........2 of those 4 will qualify Tai and Hancock will get 2 wildcards I would imagine the other 2 wildcards could be the 2 riders that dont make it out of the 4 i listed 7th, 8th 9th and 10th (currently Kolodziej and Doyle) The only other rider who may be considered is Lambert , but i only see him getting a wildcard if firstly Greg retires or secondly the organisers dont go for Laguta or Kolodziej if they finish outside the top 8 People with a lack of knowledge bang on about 'new blood'..would love the names of these 'new blood ' riders who could make the series better and be competitive Spot on. The only rider outside those you have mentioned who could genuinely be an improvement would be G. Laguta. But I wouldn't wildcard him as I think it sends out the wrong message. I hope he tries and qualifies through the challenge next year. Drabik, Smeketa, Pawlicki, Michelson are all decent but aren't at the level of Doyle, Tai, Laguta, Magic, Hancock just yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 The biggest problem is giving them decent tracks to perform on, like the last 2 GP’s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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