Conkers Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 The Under 21 Team Cup Of Russia Final 2 at Izhvesk was cancelled due to a poor track and safety concerns at the Stadium. Apparently the track was too thin at the edges, the inside line made the bends impossible to negotiate, plus there was no proper run off area that seems to be a feature of the Russian Tracks. There were also complaints about the Stadium in that the changing rooms were too small and the pits couldn't fit in all the bikes safely . Nikita Tarasov has posted some pics of the track and Pits on Instagram. The last time they staged a meeting at Ishvesk was 2011. Stadium Improvements are supposed to have been carried out, but the general consensus is that Ice Speedway may never be staged there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) ICE SPEEDWAY GLADIATORS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL 5, SHADRINSK, FEBRUARY 15 Dmitri Khomitsevich (3, 3, 2, 3, 3)(14+3+3) 20 20 Dinar Valeev (3, d, 3, 2, 3)(11+3+2) 16 18 Dmitri Koltakov (2, 3, 2, 3, 3)(13+2+1) 16 16 Johann Weber (1, 2, 2, 2, 2)(9+2+0) 11 14 Daniil Ivanov (3, 1, 3, 3, 3)(13+1) 14 12 Konstantin Kolenkin (2, 2, 2, 3, 2)(11+1) 12 11 Igor Kononov (3, 3, 3, 1, 2)(12+0) 12 10 Harald Simon (2, 1, 3, 1, 1)(8+0) 8 9 Niclas Svensson (1, 3, 1, 2, F) 7 8 Stefan Svensson (1, 2, 0, 2, 1) 6 7 Ove Ledström (2, 0, R, 1, 2) 5 6 Martin Haarahiltunen (1, 2, 1, 1, 0) 5 5 Charly Ebner (0, 1, 1, 0, 1) 3 4 Franky Zorn (0, 1, 0, 0, 1) 2 3 Jasper Iwema (0, 0, 1, 0, 0) 1 2 Bart Schaap (0, 0, 0, 0, 0) 0 1 SF1: Khomitsevich, Weber, Kolenkin, Kononov SF2: Valeev, Koltakov, Ivanov, Simon FINAL: Khomitsevich, Valeev, Koltakov, Weber OVERALL (*=WILDCARD) Daniil Ivanov 90 Dmitry Khomitsevich 84 Dinar Valeev 77 Dmitry Koltakov 67 Igor Kononov 66 Harald Simon 52 Johann Weber 47 Martin Haarahiltunen 43 Stefan Svensson 35 Franky Zorn 31 Niclas Svensson 25 Ove Ledström 24 Evgeniy Saydullin* 21 Lukas Hutla 18 Charly Ebner 17 Jasper Iwema 12 Konstantin Kolenkin* 11 Bart Schaap 3 Vladimir Cheblokov* 1 Hung on waiting for the FIM Results after last weeks events! Edited February 15, 2020 by Conkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve69 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Apologises to keep banging on about the new FIM Scoring System. If the scoring system was actual pts then Khomitsevich would have a 1 point lead in the World |Championship yet Ivanov has a 6 pts `Injustice Lead` And Kononov would be 3rd instead of Valeev. How can that be fair!!!! the latest INJUSTICE TABLE is ..............& I worry for the SGP season. Could go the same way as the 1st SoN Final where GB were robbed by Russia!!!! GP1 GP2 GP3 GP4 GP5 GP6 GP7 GP8 GP9 GP10 Total Pts No Rider Act. Pts FIM Act.Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act Pts FIMx Diff Danil IVANOV 21 20 20 20 17 20 17 18 14 12 89 90 1 Dmitry KHOMITSEVICH 19 18 19 18 19 18 13 10 20 20 90 84 -6 Dinar VALEEV 11 11 10 12 15 16 19 20 16 18 71 77 6 Igor KONONOV 14 14 15 14 14 12 17 16 12 10 72 66 -6 Dmitry KOLTAKOV 12 11 16 16 13 11 11 12 16 16 68 66 -2 Harald SIMON 11 16 9 11 6 7 8 9 8 9 42 52 10 Johan WEBER 8 9 2 1 6 9 10 14 11 14 37 47 10 Martin HAARAHILTUNEN 13 12 6 7 7 10 11 11 5 5 42 45 3 STEFAN SVENSSON 5 7 9 9 5 5 6 6 6 7 31 34 3 Franz ZORN 5 6 5 6 6 8 7 8 2 3 25 31 6 Niclas SVENSSON 6 8 9 10 0 0 0 0 7 8 22 26 4 Ove LEDSTROM 4 5 3 4 5 4 3 5 5 6 20 24 4 Lukas HUTLA 3 4 6 8 3 3 2 3 0 0 14 18 4 Charly EBNER 1 2 2 3 5 6 1 2 3 4 12 17 5 Jasper IWEMA 3 3 3 5 1 2 1 0 1 2 9 12 3 Bart SCHAPP 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 I think that the FIM wanted the best of both worlds. The heats all counted to get the best riders in a final, but then introduce a points system that the casual observer could understand, and not one where 1st Place scored less points that 2nd place but won because he won a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwantz34 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, steve69 said: Apologises to keep banging on about the new FIM Scoring System. If the scoring system was actual pts then Khomitsevich would have a 1 point lead in the World |Championship yet Ivanov has a 6 pts `Injustice Lead` And Kononov would be 3rd instead of Valeev. How can that be fair!!!! the latest INJUSTICE TABLE is ..............& I worry for the SGP season. Could go the same way as the 1st SoN Final where GB were robbed by Russia!!!! GP1 GP2 GP3 GP4 GP5 GP6 GP7 GP8 GP9 GP10 Total Pts No Rider Act. Pts FIM Act.Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act. Pts FIM Act Pts FIMx Diff Danil IVANOV 21 20 20 20 17 20 17 18 14 12 89 90 1 Dmitry KHOMITSEVICH 19 18 19 18 19 18 13 10 20 20 90 84 -6 Dinar VALEEV 11 11 10 12 15 16 19 20 16 18 71 77 6 Igor KONONOV 14 14 15 14 14 12 17 16 12 10 72 66 -6 Dmitry KOLTAKOV 12 11 16 16 13 11 11 12 16 16 68 66 -2 Harald SIMON 11 16 9 11 6 7 8 9 8 9 42 52 10 Johan WEBER 8 9 2 1 6 9 10 14 11 14 37 47 10 Martin HAARAHILTUNEN 13 12 6 7 7 10 11 11 5 5 42 45 3 STEFAN SVENSSON 5 7 9 9 5 5 6 6 6 7 31 34 3 Franz ZORN 5 6 5 6 6 8 7 8 2 3 25 31 6 Niclas SVENSSON 6 8 9 10 0 0 0 0 7 8 22 26 4 Ove LEDSTROM 4 5 3 4 5 4 3 5 5 6 20 24 4 Lukas HUTLA 3 4 6 8 3 3 2 3 0 0 14 18 4 Charly EBNER 1 2 2 3 5 6 1 2 3 4 12 17 5 Jasper IWEMA 3 3 3 5 1 2 1 0 1 2 9 12 3 Bart SCHAPP 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 2 3 1 Steve, I know what you're saying but it's totally hypothetical. Ivanov might have tried harder in some of the heats etc if it was the old scoring system. Don't know if you follow British Superbikes but they introduced a " showdown" about 10 years ago, without going in to the detail basically it's a manipulation of the points to ensure the championship goes down to the final round. On at least one occasion thereafter the champion would not have been champion if the traditional scoring system had been used. Although others say they didn't deserve their championship I say you can't use ifs buts and maybes to insinuate they were less deserving. All of course IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Nice to see Tim Dixon make his debut race in Örnsköldsvik yesterday. He will start in the Bollnäs race today as well, good luck Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, MARK246 said: Nice to see Tim Dixon make his debut race in Örnsköldsvik yesterday. He will start in the Bollnäs race today as well, good luck Tim. Is he going to try for a shot at the Roelof Thijs meeting in April. I need more Brits to snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Conkers said: Is he going to try for a shot at the Roelof Thijs meeting in April. I need more Brits to snap! From what he has said, he will be there, there are a lot of riders hoping for a spot though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 See there was a livestream from yesterday’s meeting and are hoping for the same in a few minutes too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 FIM ICE SPEEDWAY GLADIATORS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL 6, SHADRINSK, RUSSIA SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16 Igor Kononov (3, 3, 2, 3, 1)(12+2+3) 17 20 Dinar Valeev (3, 2, 3, 2, 3)(13+3+2) 18 18 Dmitri Khomitsevich (3, 3, 3, 3, d)(12+3+1) 16 16 Daniil Ivanov (2, 2, 3, 2, 3)(12+2+d) 14 14 Dmitri Koltakov (3, 3, 1, 0, 3)(10+1) 11 12 Konstantin Kolenkin (2, 2, 1, 2, 2)(9+1) 10 11 Martin Haarahiltunen (2, 2, 2, 1, 3)(10+0) 10 10 Johann Weber (2, 3, 3, 3, 2)(13+d) 13 9 Niclas Svensson (1, 1, 2, 3, 1) 8 8 Ove Ledström (0, 1, 0, 2, 2) 5 7 Harald Simon (1, R, 2, 1, 1) 5 6 Franky Zorn (0, 1, 0, 1, 2) 4 5 Jasper Iwema (0, 0, 1, 0, 1) 2 4 Bart Schaap (1, 1, 0, d, R) 2 3 Stefan Svensson (1, d, 1, 0, d) 2 2 Charly Ebner (0, 0, 0, 1, d) 1 1 SF1: Valeev, Kononov Koltakov, Haarahiltunen SF2: Khomitsevich, Ivanov, Kolenkin, Weber (d) FINAL: Kononov, Valeev, Khomitsevich, Ivanov (d) OVERALL (*=Wildcard) Daniil Ivanov 104 Dmitri Khomitsevich 100 Dinar Valeev 95 Igor Kononov 86 Dmitri Koltakov 79 Harald Simon 58 Johann Weber 56 Martin Haarahiltunen 53 Stefan Svensson 37 Franky Zorn 36 Niclas Svensson 33 Ove Ledström 31 Konstantin Kolenkin* 22 Evgeni Saydullin* 21 Charly Ebner 18 Lukas Hutla 18 Jasper Iwema 16 Bart Schaap 6 Vladimir Cheblokov* 1 I see that the FIM have now clarified the rule about placings after last week. Finishers of the Semi Finals finish above non-finishers. Points only count when both riders finish or don't finish Also, I think Eis-Hans is the first Western Rider to have a first pick in a Semi Final, after finishing second in the points standings. I don't think Martin H ever managed that, unless someone knows better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Photo's from todays Final 6 in Shadrinsk: https://www.baansportfansite.nl/nieuws/1920/igor-kononov-pakt-eerste-wk-finale-overwinning-van-het-seizoen.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Conkers said: I see that the FIM have now clarified the rule about placings after last week. Finishers of the Semi Finals finish above non-finishers. Points only count when both riders finish or don't finish These new rules are still very strange, but now finally clear to everyone... hopefully. It confused everyone during the past 3 weeks here in Kazakstan and Russia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwantz34 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Weber was excellent this weekend, very exciting to watch. To harp back to the scoring, the new system has kept the top of the table close whereas Steves old table shows Ivanov and Khomitsevich way out in front with a gap nigh on impossible to close ( with the old scoring). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Conkers said: Is he going to try for a shot at the Roelof Thijs meeting in April. I need more Brits to snap! Great weekend for Tim Dixon, debut meeting, and after his Bollnäs meeting a gold medal for being part of the ÖMK League winning side. Many congratulations Tim. He will now stay in Sweden to train, before travelling down to Berlin to ride in the German Championship 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 See Aakko and Stenlund have pulled out of Bauer’s meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 hours ago, iris123 said: See Aakko and Stenlund have pulled out of Bauer’s meeting Sods law! I did a preview for the Star this week too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Tomorrows Swedish final at Örnsköldsvik has been cancelled due to weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) The Major League Rounds 3 & 4, scheduled for Lukhovitsy this weekend has been cancelled due to the weather. No snow. The Super League Rounds 5 & 6 go ahead at Togliatti with the Saturday meeting starting at Noon UK Time. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/f9IEl9EyPF0 Edited February 22, 2020 by Conkers typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Russian Super League Round 5, Saturday February 22 TOGLIATTI 36 Nikita Toloknov 10 Igor Kononov 10 Daniil Ivanov 10 Evgeni Saydullin 5 Vladimir Fadeev 1 UFA 32 Dinar Valeev 14 Nikita Bogdanov 9 Dmitri Solyannikov 8 Nikita Panov 1 Elisha Vydrin 0 KAMENSK URAL 30 Dmitri Khomitsevich 10 Nikita Tarasov 8 Vasilli Nesytyh 5 Ivan Khuzhin 4 Igor Saydullin 3 SHADRINSK 22 Dmitri Koltakov 11 Konstantin Kolenkin 4 Yuri Olejnik 4 Dmitri Borodin 3 Table: UFA 23 TOGLIATTI 16 KAMENSK URAL 9 SHADRINSK 7 Ufa are the new League Champions, with one round to go. Round 6 Sunday 10am GMT start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve69 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Disappointed that both Kazakhstan & Finland are contesting the iSoN ahead of The Netherlands who have both Jasper Iwema & Bart Schaap in the ICE Series & a Nation that appear to be bringing along their younger riders. Hopefully 2021 will see either a change or so sort of qualifying system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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