Steve Shovlar Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/speedway/49429093 It's made the nationals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I think the big mistake Rosco always makes is reading all the online abuse, taking it to heart, and commenting on it. I wouldn't be surprised if he, at least partly, feels he doesn't need that any more and it had a bearing in his decision. Good candidate to take over? Anyone? Woffinden as rider/manager perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 You wonder if the reasons given are genuine or whether his relationship with Tai deteriorated completely. I think he can leave with his head held high. Would like to se some new blood and it has to be somebody who all the riders respect and get on with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 7:46 AM, Bagpuss said: You wonder if the reasons given are genuine or whether his relationship with Tai deteriorated completely. I think he can leave with his head held high. Would like to se some new blood and it has to be somebody who all the riders respect and get on with. Expand I did notice when he was presenting the Grand Prix he said that he would be supporting Jason Doyle, with no mention of Tai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Now that there is this entire 'GB Speedway Team' set up ... I wonder what is the actual role of the 'Manager' within that set up anyway. In other sports the Manager would be the guy that headed that entire team of backroom staff every bit as much as the sportsmen on the track. But Rob Painter is that true Manager already . Not for first time British Speedway has done it arse-about. Surely they are looking for just a 'rider liaison facilitator' or a 'Programme filler in'. Aren't they ? Leaving Tai free to tell Rob what needs to be actually done. Edited August 22, 2019 by Grand Central Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 It’s pretty obvious that there was “to many cooks”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 9:58 AM, Fromafar said: It’s pretty obvious that there was “to many cooks”. Expand But never a recipe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 9:52 AM, Grand Central said: Now that there is this entire 'GB Speedway Team' set up ... I wonder what is the actual role of the 'Manager' within that set up anyway. In other sports the Manager would be the guy that headed that entire team of backroom staff every bit as much as the sportsmen on the track. But Neil Painter is that true Manager already . Not for first time British Speedway has done it arse-about. Surely they are looking for just a 'rider liaison facilitator' or a 'Programme filler in'. Aren't they ? Leaving Tai free to tell Neil what needs to be done. Expand We need someone to coach the riders and get the best out of them, while making sensible tactical decisions. It's becoming quite common now, especially in European football, to have a technical/business person dealing with all the background stuff and a head coach to deal with the sports side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 10:00 AM, JCookie said: We need someone to coach the riders and get the best out of them, while making sensible tactical decisions. It's becoming quite common now, especially in European football, to have a technical/business person dealing with all the background stuff and a head coach to deal with the sports side. Expand We don’t have enough riders at the level required to make a difference .Woffy and Lambert ,the rest are nowhere near .Woffy has ideas how to solve it but that’s very long term IMO.The youngsters nowadays stress out after a couple of seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Scott Nicholls - David Rowe partnership ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 10:05 AM, Fromafar said: We don’t have enough riders at the level required to make a difference .Woffy and Lambert ,the rest are nowhere near .Woffy has ideas how to solve it but that’s very long term IMO.The youngsters nowadays stress out after a couple of seasons. Expand Agree with your post except I'm still not convinced by Lambert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) International 'Team' Speedway had been reduced to a 'three man pair'. Nothing more. And the reliance on Tai is just overwhelming. In most races it will be him partnered by another. So ... whatever Tai wants or feels will work best will probably BE the best. No matter what us outsiders think. Edited August 22, 2019 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmole Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 10:37 AM, sancho said: Scott Nicholls - David Rowe partnership ?? Expand You are joking? I hope you are! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Jumped before he was pushed, especially when listening to Tai Woffinden recently. Good news IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 11:22 AM, screm said: Jumped before he was pushed, especially when listening to Tai Woffinden recently. Good news IMO Expand I think he's done a good job, we only have one truly world class rider, yet we won silver in the SON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Dont have alot of time for rosco and alot less for woffy he seems to be calling the shots, he likes telling us all how to run british speedway then wont ride, good old " ian and booey" would have sorted him out . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 12:12 PM, foamfence said: I think he's done a good job, we only have one truly world class rider, yet we won silver in the SON. Expand that rider went unbeaten at Wroclaw bar in one race when he came 2nd. 35 points from 36 the other two riders scored 11 points from 12 races 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 2:32 PM, Mark said: that rider went unbeaten at Wroclaw bar in one race when he came 2nd. 35 points from 36 the other two riders scored 11 points from 12 races Expand They still did better than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 2:41 PM, foamfence said: They still did better than I expected. Expand thanks to Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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