martinmauger Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 9 hours ago, noaksey said: Bellamy in the Star says that they did consider Belle Vue as an option as no Cardiff. No mention of Odsal Ommited the 'magic' word in my own post: "Hope I'm wrong but if Odsal was considered a GP venue think it's too late for this year.", yeh Odsal not mentioned. With the Covid situation chnaging almost by the day like last year think the GPs will take place at the venues if / when they are able to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 7 hours ago, martinmauger said: Ommited the 'magic' word in my own post: "Hope I'm wrong but if Odsal was considered a GP venue think it's too late for this year.", yeh Odsal not mentioned. With the Covid situation chnaging almost by the day like last year think the GPs will take place at the venues if / when they are able to... That's pretty much it Martin New "owners" of the GP for 2022 so it'll be interesting to see the calendar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 5:20 PM, noaksey said: Bellamy in the Star says that they did consider Belle Vue as an option as no Cardiff. No mention of Odsal Odsal doesn't have an FIM track licence, and hasn't for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said: Odsal doesn't have an FIM track licence, and hasn't for years. How long would it take to obtain one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, noaksey said: How long would it take to obtain one? I don't what the exact process is for the FIM, but it would really depend on what work needed to be done. After so many years, the requirements will have changed, safety and facilities standards will be more rigorous, and of course Odsal has been significantly modified since the last time speedway was held there. I also don't think it has erm.. any track record in terms of having an air fence with all the necessary fixtures and fittings. So could well imagine a few months given that inspections need to be scheduled. If a track has been recently licensed it could probably be re-licensed pretty quickly because most of the requirements should already be in place and it undoubtedly helps if the licensing authority has an established relationship with the track promoters. I can't really see why Odsal couldn't be re-licensed, although there's a few things in the photos that might an issue, such as lamp columns on the bends that might need (re)moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Seems to me it’s a big dream to think Odsal could be the venue for a world speedway Gp one off meeting in 2021, 2022 or any other year unless a lot of money is thrown at it. Who has got the money and the inclination to fulfill the dreams of a few fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said: I don't what the exact process is for the FIM, but it would really depend on what work needed to be done. After so many years, the requirements will have changed, safety and facilities standards will be more rigorous, and of course Odsal has been significantly modified since the last time speedway was held there. I also don't think it has erm.. any track record in terms of having an air fence with all the necessary fixtures and fittings. So could well imagine a few months given that inspections need to be scheduled. If a track has been recently licensed it could probably be re-licensed pretty quickly because most of the requirements should already be in place and it undoubtedly helps if the licensing authority has an established relationship with the track promoters. I can't really see why Odsal couldn't be re-licensed, although there's a few things in the photos that might an issue, such as lamp columns on the bends that might need (re)moving. Or could they be converted into fold down lamp columns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Seems to me it’s a big dream to think Odsal could be the venue for a world speedway Gp one off meeting in 2021, 2022 or any other year unless a lot of money is thrown at it. Who has got the money and the inclination to fulfill the dreams of a few fans. Cardiff is a one off and it doesn't even have a track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifordukesfan Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 52 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: Or could they be converted into fold down lamp columns? The lighting columns are at least 3 metres back from the fence on turns 3 & 4, allow for air bags as well, and the riders usually enter & exit the bends on the inside of the track, I can't see this being a problem. I would also box in the hospitality suite supports & utilise the space for further advertising revenue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 3 hours ago, ch958 said: Cardiff is a one off and it doesn't even have a track Cardiff - It’s a meeting guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Halifordukesfan said: The lighting columns are at least 3 metres back from the fence on turns 3 & 4, allow for air bags as well, and the riders usually enter & exit the bends on the inside of the track, I can't see this being a problem. I would also box in the hospitality suite supports & utilise the space for further advertising revenue. 2 meter safety zone is required outside the fence. As for FIM track license (as in license for a track, not facilities) cant see it being as complicated as HA thinks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Cardiff - It’s a meeting guaranteed. Not this year unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 You know what I meant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 6:46 PM, noaksey said: How long would it take to obtain one? I honestly imagine it depends on the money involved. For example if a stadium such as Cardiff with a roof and a massive capacity became available I imagine many of the hoops say for example Poole with a smaller capacity would have to jump through would be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, teaboy279 said: I honestly imagine it depends on the money involved. For example if a stadium such as Cardiff with a roof and a massive capacity became available I imagine many of the hoops say for example Poole with a smaller capacity would have to jump through would be removed. They have to consider things like parking and nearby accommodation and travel facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 Cardiff is like the Monte Carlo of the Speedway GP - It has glitz and glamour. It is set on a waterfront. It is a temporary tight small circuit and just like the Monte Carlo of F1 overtaking is minimal and first out the traps usually wins. I'd love to see the GP return to Osdal. A proper big, wide, racers track. Maybe they could stage a Commonwealth GP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, JamesHarris said: Cardiff is like the Monte Carlo of the Speedway GP - It has glitz and glamour. It is set on a waterfront. It is a temporary tight small circuit and just like the Monte Carlo of F1 overtaking is minimal and first out the traps usually wins. I'd love to see the GP return to Osdal. A proper big, wide, racers track. Maybe they could stage a Commonwealth GP? How do we know Osdal will be a racers track? It never used to be a racers track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 well they will not be pushing the bikes around thats for certain , racers in races , whatever next ! will it be the 1970 shale ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 How many times as it got to be said there will not be any speedway this year or next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 Startrax have announced ticket availability and pricing for the Stock Car World Final later in the year. That will be their major focus beyond the big task of getting the place ready for opening night. And with a two day final where tickets are £39 per night to stand it should be a pay day that will make all his hard work worthwhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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