Mildenhall v Kent 18th Aug

[flipper11]

31 minutes ago, Binman said:

No 8 James Chattin or Kieran Douglas got to be worth a call

The chances of getting a rider to travel to a meeting on the off chance of getting a ride at no8 would be bordering on impossible,, which is why it is very rare to see a no8 in an away sides team . As in the case today at mildenhall a no8 would not have been used so would have had a wasted journey. Do chattin or Douglas live near mildenhall? 

[Rayleigh]

I thought the BSPA had a pool of riders for such a situation.

Sorry to hear Ablitt has packed up he was very promising

[Binman]

8 minutes ago, flipper11 said:

The chances of getting a rider to travel to a meeting on the off chance of getting a ride at no8 would be bordering on impossible,, which is why it is very rare to see a no8 in an away sides team . As in the case today at mildenhall a no8 would not have been used so would have had a wasted journey. Do chattin or Douglas live near mildenhall? 

If I am correct Douglas was no8 for Plymouth at Mildenhall earlier this year

[Dickie Head]

Is Mildenhall the most dangerous track in the country? I might be wrong but there always seems to be a high number of incidents, fallers and withdrawals. Happened again today.

Given that refs complete a match summary and have the benefit of the Incident Recorders report, I wonder if the SCB / BSPA  use this information? I’m sure the sports insurers would be interested. On second thoughts maybe keep it in house, you never know what damage it could do.

[teaboy279]

Having spoken with Jason Pipe earlier this year, a new rule was introduced to stop riders riding a large part of the season but not doing enough league fixtures to get average. So next season my understanding is that all his competitive rides will count and by my calculations he has scored 72 point from 56 rides which would give him a starting average of around 5.18. Thankfully still good value, and wont leave him struggling to get a team.

[Islander15]

6 hours ago, teaboy279 said:

Having spoken with Jason Pipe earlier this year, a new rule was introduced to stop riders riding a large part of the season but not doing enough league fixtures to get average. So next season my understanding is that all his competitive rides will count and by my calculations he has scored 72 point from 56 rides which would give him a starting average of around 5.18. Thankfully still good value, and wont leave him struggling to get a team.

Who are you referring to? If you mean Mulford he’d struggle to find a team on 5.18.

Edit: You must mean Ablitt, thinking about it, but even then it’s not a great average for him because with a low points limit that could make him a 3rd heat leader in teams. For example, IOW started with RTD as 3rd heat leader on 5.22. But it’s a bit high to be a second string. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by Islander15

[Sings4Speedway]

Kent haven't struggled to find suitable /available 2.00 riders what they have done is alienate those that would be available to cover for them after struggling once when they were given late notice by Gilkes. Since then they have persisted  with using a way below par Barnes who is as fragile as his equipment and enjoys the photos pre-meeting more than the track time.  Ablitt stepped down because he was going to get an average and was woefully out of form so was at risk of being dropped and saddled with an average over 4 rather than 2/3 for next season. Clouting is lucky Kent were desperate having been lumped with an average nobody else would take him on and Mulford comes in now as the options have run out. 

The 4 meetings rule is good to prevent long term abuse of reserves in form but will end some riders careers as its very easy to get a high average, get replaced and be un-signable.

[Old Crusader]

6 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Kent haven't struggled to find suitable /available 2.00 riders what they have done is alienate those that would be available to cover for them after struggling once when they were given late notice by Gilkes. Since then they have persisted  with using a way below par Barnes who is as fragile as his equipment and enjoys the photos pre-meeting more than the track time.  Ablitt stepped down because he was going to get an average and was woefully out of form so was at risk of being dropped and saddled with an average over 4 rather than 2/3 for next season. Clouting is lucky Kent were desperate having been lumped with an average nobody else would take him on and Mulford comes in now as the options have run out. 

The 4 meetings rule is good to prevent long term abuse of reserves in form but will end some riders careers as its very easy to get a high average, get replaced and be un-signable.

 

6 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Kent haven't struggled to find suitable /available 2.00 riders what they have done is alienate those that would be available to cover for them after struggling once when they were given late notice by Gilkes. Since then they have persisted  with using a way below par Barnes who is as fragile as his equipment and enjoys the photos pre-meeting more than the track time.  Ablitt stepped down because he was going to get an average and was woefully out of form so was at risk of being dropped and saddled with an average over 4 rather than 2/3 for next season. Clouting is lucky Kent were desperate having been lumped with an average nobody else would take him on and Mulford comes in now as the options have run out. 

The 4 meetings rule is good to prevent long term abuse of reserves in form but will end some riders careers as its very easy to get a high average, get replaced and be un-signable.

Who did Kent alienate and how? Just interested to know.

[Sings4Speedway]

41 minutes ago, Old Crusader said:

 

Who did Kent alienate and how? Just interested to know.

Im not going to name names as the riders who i have spoken too / communicated with / heard via other trusted sources but there is certainly some disillusion from fringe riders (all of which are higher rated by me than Barnes) that he has been given the opportunities and full notice whereas offers midday on Monday that riders simply cannot accommodate seem to be treated in a negative light. There are plenty of teams out there who will / do need additional riders and the vast majority don't struggle to find an unattached guests so perhaps that should start to tell Len/Kent something. 

[cityrebel]

11 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Im not going to name names as the riders who i have spoken too / communicated with / heard via other trusted sources but there is certainly some disillusion from fringe riders (all of which are higher rated by me than Barnes) that he has been given the opportunities and full notice whereas offers midday on Monday that riders simply cannot accommodate seem to be treated in a negative light. There are plenty of teams out there who will / do need additional riders and the vast majority don't struggle to find an unattached guests so perhaps that should start to tell Len/Kent something. 

Tell Len something, good luck with that.

[East End Fan]

16 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Im not going to name names as the riders who i have spoken too / communicated with / heard via other trusted sources but there is certainly some disillusion from fringe riders (all of which are higher rated by me than Barnes) that he has been given the opportunities and full notice whereas offers midday on Monday that riders simply cannot accommodate seem to be treated in a negative light. There are plenty of teams out there who will / do need additional riders and the vast majority don't struggle to find an unattached guests so perhaps that should start to tell Len/Kent something. 

Never read such rubbish in all my life.  What on earth do you mean, and what are you talking about ?  Who are all these riders that Kent have alienated ? Which riders have been "treated in a negative light" ?  And what does that mean anyway.  Not the first time I've found "Sings" spouting nonsense.  I'm an ex-Hammers fan who now attends most Mondays at Kent. The team has been hard hit by injuries this year, yet are still in a strong position. So what's to criticise ?

[Sings4Speedway]

10 minutes ago, East End Fan said:

Never read such rubbish in all my life.  What on earth do you mean, and what are you talking about ?  Who are all these riders that Kent have alienated ? Which riders have been "treated in a negative light" ?  And what does that mean anyway.  Not the first time I've found "Sings" spouting nonsense.  I'm an ex-Hammers fan who now attends most Mondays at Kent. The team has been hard hit by injuries this year, yet are still in a strong position. So what's to criticise ?

Im not in a position to name names as its not fair on any of the riders concerned. It is however safe to say that the dreaded Monday where Kent failed to track a number 7 there were a minimum of 5 riders i know of who would have definitely ridden if they had a days notice. None of these riders have since been contacted and Barnes became the new go to guy (which has worked out so well). 

The position Kent are in is entirely irrelevant to this situation, they will make the play offs, they will be able to field a much stronger team at that point. Len has done a huge amount for the sport in Kent and as a whole but it still doesn't stop him being a stubborn old bugger.

[cuckootoyou]

2 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Im not in a position to name names as its not fair on any of the riders concerned. It is however safe to say that the dreaded Monday where Kent failed to track a number 7 there were a minimum of 5 riders i know of who would have definitely ridden if they had a days notice. None of these riders have since been contacted and Barnes became the new go to guy (which has worked out so well). 

The position Kent are in is entirely irrelevant to this situation, they will make the play offs, they will be able to field a much stronger team at that point. Len has done a huge amount for the sport in Kent and as a whole but it still doesn't stop him being a stubborn old bugger.

You wont name names but keep going on about Barnes. You only have to read your posts to see what your game is. Get a life dude. Barnes is not the go to guy, he just does what he can to help out when asked. After speaking to him last week he told me he lost a load of money on expenses and a days work to help out Len & Chris going to Manchester, but said Len helped him in the past so thought  it would be the decent thing to do. You wont have to worry now anyway because he is injured, so now you will have to find someone else to slur on here. So come on name names it will save time because speedway is a small family and things have a way of eaking out.

[Sings4Speedway]

7 minutes ago, cuckootoyou said:

You wont name names but keep going on about Barnes. You only have to read your posts to see what your game is. Get a life dude. Barnes is not the go to guy, he just does what he can to help out when asked. After speaking to him last week he told me he lost a load of money on expenses and a days work to help out Len & Chris going to Manchester, but said Len helped him in the past so thought  it would be the decent thing to do. You wont have to worry now anyway because he is injured, so now you will have to find someone else to slur on here. So come on name names it will save time because speedway is a small family and things have a way of eaking out.

I will name Barnes because he featured in league matches which supporters have to pay to view and in my opinion (which is exactly what anything written by me on the forum is and i am fully entitled to) Luke is enthusiastic but his riding ability and machinery are not at the level required to be competitive at National league level and by him making continued appearances he is actually doing himself more harm than good as whilst the experience is a benefit the results will create a reputation that sticks. However i do not wish injury upon anybody and hope he is back on track soon.

[craigACE]

16 hours ago, teaboy279 said:

Think kent must have one of the most cursed seasons in existence.

Think that is a fair enough comment. I do not know how they have coped tbh. They are the best team in the comp that was obvious to see. Been ruined. But eh, They can still do something.

[Super Blue]

A bit like Mildenhall last season, clearly the best team in the league but they were ravaged by injuries when it came to the business end of the playoffs!