cinderfella Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Male bovine excrement!!! Cook was making his way into the pits, Memebers of the public were not or should not have been at the pit gate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: The flag Marshall was under instruction to stop the out of control Cook, Vissing and other rider from coming around and riding in front of the other riders who were still being introduced to the crowd, along with members of the public who were also trackside. The Marshall is a hero from stopping potential carnage. The marshall nearly caused carnage handbag stuff really it give the crowd some extra entertainment though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 It's a difficult one to which to apply consistent rules. As a former racer on the grass, I witnessed many confrontations between racers after a tough race. You know, handbags at dawn. The respective crews pulled them apart and two hours later everyone had a beer together. The sight of crews wading into the fight along with riders not directly involved is not one I find acceptable or equivalent to the situation I describe above. The former warrants a ticking off by the team manager, the latter, an intervention by the authorities as we see here. Due process. You take the law into your own hands (and someone will be recording it, that's for sure) and the authorities will throw the book at you. Never mind what the real reason for you being upset in the first place, violence won't be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 often think fining footballers is pointless but with uk speedway a 3k fine for each on top of their leniant bans might make them behave in future,think the eastbourne mindset has been for many years  "at arlington we do what ever we want" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Male bovine excrement!!! Cook was making his way into the pits, Memebers of the public were not or should not have been at the pit gate. The entrance to the pits is half way down the back straight, meaning the three riders would have had to have ridden past the riders who were still being introduced! There were families by the riders! Edited August 11, 2019 by Steve Shovlar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, poole keith said: often think fining footballers is pointless but with uk speedway a 3k fine for each on top of their leniant bans might make them behave in future,think the eastbourne mindset has been for many years  "at arlington we do what ever we want" Wasn’t ~Eastbourne who caused this. Though Eddie should have kept his beak out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Crumpet77 said: So if i'm driving down a one way street full of pedestrians and a policeman jumps in front of me to avert potential carnage, its the policeman's fault It would be if cars didn’t have any brakes!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve0 said: His job is NOT to wave a red flag on the track or walk in front of a rider under power! What is the job of someone at a track with a red flag?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) So Cook misses 16th 17th and 18th for Glasgow and then 15th 19th and 22nd for Kings Lynn. Vissing misses 16th 17th and 18th for Glasgow and 15th for Swindon Kennett misses 15th for Ipswich and 16th 17th 18th for Eastbourne That's if the ban is for all racing and not subject to a sub clause that means it only applies to the CL Edited August 11, 2019 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: The entrance to the pits is half way down the back straight, meaning the three riders would have had to have ridden past the riders who were still being introduced! There were families by the riders! The exit from the track was just past where the steward was waving his flag, which was where the filming was done, not half way down the straight.  Cook should have stopped but the steward should not have moved in front of a bike with no brakes. Edited August 11, 2019 by A ORLOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, geoff100 said: What is the job of someone at a track with a red flag?? To wave it like a majorette? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Steve0 said: It would be if cars didn’t have any brakes!! Wouldn't take much to stop a car going at the speed Cook was going at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Ha ha ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 It actually seems a reasonable outcome to me, although I see Kyle Newman appears to have got away with his later misdemeanours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: The exit from the track was just past where the steward was waving his flag, which was where the filming was done, not half way down the straight.  Cook should have stopped but the steward should not have moved in front of a bike with no brakes. That’s the exit from the pits. The entrance is halfway down the back straight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: That’s the exit from the pits. The entrance is halfway down the back straight. Which is where they took the bikes after the incident, anyway Cook should have stopped and the steward should not have jumped in front of him. Edited August 11, 2019 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Shame any of them were banned,, they should have got them in a ring for the Ben fund. Speedway often had dust ups and face offs,, was great for crowd, but it seems now most of the crowd are a bunch of snowflakes wanting riders banned. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, geoff100 said: What is the job of someone at a track with a red flag?? To stay on the infield (a safe place) and wave their flag. Â Do you think stepping in front of a moving motorcycle without brakes is a smart thing to do? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Which is where they took the bikes after the incident thus saving a long walk/push for the mechanics pushing and bikes .gate was open ( as footage shows ) so it made it easier . not a problem .why walk the full distance when you can half it ?  shirley this thread cannot surpass the other easbourne / glasgow thread , or can it ? Edited August 11, 2019 by jenga 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Steve0 said: To stay on the infield (a safe place) and wave their flag. Â Do you think stepping in front of a moving motorcycle without brakes is a smart thing to do? I think the lad was doing his job would appear the scb agree as well! 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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