CLRC - 1st September

[Endeavour]

Can we congratulate Erik Riss on his win. Thread Seems to have turned into a Craig Cook one.

[tigerowl]

I would be much more likely to go to Belle Vue for the riders' championship next year than Sheffield and I live 3 miles away from Owlerton.

[Dornier]

56 minutes ago, bendover said:

Would you want to pay for legal representation on a Sunday !!

Where have I said they should do him on a Sunday ?

[Triple.H.]

10 hours ago, OveFundinFan said:

I thought all stadium were very much the same - no food or drink policy. Make you buy from the stadium - no matter who owns or rents it- thats the business side of it.  Now the safety side - If food and drinks were allowed I would think there would be more bags to search (security in this modern age and security searches cost money), and especially drinks in glass bottles or glass drinking receptacles are considered a potentially dangerous weapon ie broken glass can cut throats. Sounds crazy but we live in that society now and speedway fans are not immune from it.

I can remember our visits to Cardiff in 2013-14-15, certainly the last 2 years it was full bag search. And recently I been to a city centre venue for a 3 day convention, and it was full bag search every day as you enter, and if you go out at lunch time and come back carrying a bag again it was full bag search. These were security checks, we had a concession re food/drink. but the bag search was checking for any sort og glass as well.

Its all a pain, but thats the world we live in at this moment.  If at an event where anything could be brought in without security and something bad did happen the cry would be "where was the security checks, security checks would have stopped them".

I predict on the Sunday after the GP people will be moaning about bag searches at Cardiff.

They take no notice of the Please don't big a bag other than a small handbag type pleas.

Then moan about the searches and time taken to get through them.

I've been to many big events over the years and the amount of people of every sex who feel the need to take a rucksack that a Royal Marine would struggle to carry and then moan about being stopped searched and delayed is phenomonal

[Boothers]

Back to the thread....has any 2nd Division/National League/Premier League/Championship League team ever held both the British Champion and the League Riders champion at the same time? And both being different riders? Unprecedented as far as I'm concerned and a testament to what Jitendra and Jade have done at Redcar this year.  Have always been proud to be a Bears fan (even in the darkest days) but now I can hold my head high and hold my chin up. UTB!

[Steve55]

3 hours ago, tigerowl said:

Every time I've been this season, the racing has been woeful. It's not about the times, is it? It's about riders having the confidence to race on it and entertain us.

It's been like that for the last 2 years (at least), the thing about the race times is the fact that at least one rider has the confidence to get going. Perhaps it's the fact that it is a 'fast' track and has become "gate and go" as the rider at the front blats on and the other three haven't got the speed to catch them, never mind pass them. That's why I was asking.

The thing about yesterday is you've got (supposedly) the best 16 riders in the league, so you should theoretically have the best chance of close racing (which did happen in the last few races). But again if all the riders have the top equipment it equals them up and again the first man out of the gate can wind it on and as long as they keep a good line none of the others will be able to pass them. As with Riss in the final, King passed the other 2 but couldn't get near him.

By all means take this to the NSS (sounds like they'll have to if they want a paying audience) it should even it out, but with riders doubling up they'll still be somebody with home track advantage. 

Edited September 2, 2019 by Steve55
missed making a point about the final

[bendover]

1 hour ago, Dornier fixer said:

Where have I said they should do him on a Sunday ?

Apologies, meant to quote the previous  post from Screm that mentioned members of the BSPA been present to hold the appeal on Sunday. 

[Dornier]

20 minutes ago, bendover said:

Apologies, meant to quote the previous  post from Screm that mentioned members of the BSPA been present to hold the appeal on Sunday. 

Accepted

[Fortythirtyeight]

7 hours ago, acef said:

Redcar is too far north mate, I would think the crowd will be impacted. That's why they have stuck with Sheffield for so long.

It makes perfect sense to move it to the NSS. Its central and it's the best track in the uk, with great facilities to boot. No brainer.

The reason they wont is down to money share I would say. The promotion of the track staging it will get a chunk I would think so if you put to many meetings at the NSS a number of the dinosaurs will see there arse.

It should be run and funded entirely by the sports governing body then we can actually make use of a 'national stadium' because the promotions wont be on any coin.

Too far north?

That surely depends where you reside?

The other thing to consider is who travels to these meetings? . Glasgow and Berwick always send bus loads, Redcar have a large travelling support but perhaps you just meant it was too far north for you?

[acef]

13 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Too far north?

That surely depends where you reside?

The other thing to consider is who travels to these meetings? . Glasgow and Berwick always send bus loads, Redcar have a large travelling support but perhaps you just meant it was too far north for you?

No, I mean geographically. Manchester is as  close as you will get to bang in the centre as far as speedway teams go.

Whilst it will effect different people depending on their own location you really should be taking a view with every team in mind, and when you do that, manchester is bang on the money.

[Fortythirtyeight]

49 minutes ago, acef said:

No, I mean geographically. Manchester is as  close as you will get to bang in the centre as far as speedway teams go.

Whilst it will effect different people depending on their own location you really should be taking a view with every team in mind, and when you do that, manchester is bang on the money.

Not sure how long since you looked at a map but Birmingham is more central as Manchester is still in the North. 

[False dawn]

8 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Not sure how long since you looked at a map but Birmingham is more central as Manchester is still in the North. 

I  suppose it depends on whether you live in Eastbourne or Glasgow. 

[IainB]

6 hours ago, topaz325 said:

Craig riding for KL tonight.

You sure about that?

[False dawn]

29 minutes ago, iainb said:

You sure about that?

Retired, 3, withdrawn (reason unclear)

[Pinny]

The event used to be the highlight of the Premier League season - how times have changed. 

Only went once , in 1999. Wilson won it, Olsen second and Wato third. Stoney was last in the final and had a strop.

no idea what it is like now but back then was a great stadium and great atmosphere with flat out racing on a superb track.

people just need to accept the sport is in a rapid decline in the UK , and i dont ever see it getting back to what it was .

[squall]

Move it to Scunthorpe and you'll get an amazing meeting

[arnieg]

9 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Not sure how long since you looked at a map but Birmingham is more central as Manchester is still in the North. 

You have a funny map . 

Manchester is more central (remember there are teams in Scotland).

But the most central is probably Stoke - the perfect venue for major shared events????

[Moranboys]

21 hours ago, arnieg said:

Not true in general.

I travel widely and there are very few places where I have problems. I took a tuna fish sandwich, fruit & tomatoes (both home grown), a cereal bar and fizzy pop into Sheffield without problems for the NL pairs.

The only place where I get a regular thorough bag check is Kent and they allow food in. 

The only places I see a problem with are Birminghan (although they don't do bag searches and I have never been challenged sitting in the grandstand eating my subway branded sarnie.) and Belle Vue (even that is improving, fruit and a bottle of pop usually pass thru security without comment). [I believe King's Lynn is also problematical, but I don't go there often enough to pass comment on their practices.]

at the end of the day its the old dave allen syndrome again.he doesn't, give two flying f...s about speedway.he is just out to line his own pockets so that's why food and drink are not allowed in so that you have to use his facilities.for christ, s sake its hard enough trying to find the admission money let alone then being ripped off for,as you say, the tasteless, bland rubbishe that is served up in the cafeteria.do they think that by putting chips etc into a round cardboard container is going to make them taste any better.wrong.still the same old rubbish dressed up.it is never going to alter either because the speedway side of things have no say in the matter.eastbourne on saturday night however was like a breath of fresh air.they have their own catering block where the food was greater burger van where again the food was greater big van full of choices,sweets,candy floss etc for the kids plus drinks and is all run very professionally.plus after races the riders come round and do high fives with the kids etc on the way back round to the pits.good atmosphere and good set up.

[Piotr Pyszny]

1 hour ago, Moranboys said:

at the end of the day its the old dave allen syndrome again.he doesn't, give two flying f...s about speedway.

This will be the same Dave Allen, I imagine, who doesn't give two flying f**** about Chesterfield Football Club. Look where they are now. Vote with your feet (as so many have done/are doing). It's the only language the likes of Allen understands.

The Allen philosophy: “I only went in (to Chesterfield FC) to invest money; my ambition was to get into the Championship and flog it."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/02/chesterfield-relegation-from-football-league

Edited September 3, 2019 by Piotr Pyszny

[Moranboys]

57 minutes ago, Piotr Pyszny said:

This will be the same Dave Allen, I imagine, who doesn't give two flying f**** about Chesterfield Football Club. Look where they are now. Vote with your feet (as so many have done/are doing). It's the only language the likes of Allen understands.

The Allen philosophy: “I only went in (to Chesterfield FC) to invest money; my ambition was to get into the Championship and flog it."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/02/chesterfield-relegation-from-football-league

well put