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14 hours ago, iainb said:

Perhaps they should draft Havvy in as he can usually be found during a GP making bitter and twisted comments on Twitter about how he should be commentating instead of Kelvin Tatum

Ironic that Havelock uses Twitter to communicate as he has hardly string a sentence together that is either understandable or coherent.

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11 minutes ago, screm said:

Ironic that Havelock uses Twitter to communicate as he has hardly string a sentence together that is either understandable or coherent.

He does seem to have some beef with Tatum and hardly a commentary goes by without him having a snipe... but I agree, I thought English maybe his second language

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SCB Statement

August 11, 2019

Over the last 2 weeks, the SCB Co Ordinator has requested witness statements from a number of licenced officials who were in attendance at the Eastbourne v Glasgow fixture on Saturday 3rd August, and also has reviewed video evidence from the scenes that happened prior to that fixture.

It has proven that 3 riders, Craig Cook, Claus Vissing and Edward Kennett all Breached Speedway Regulation 3.2.8 which reads –

Any act which is violent, threatening or abusive nature to any official, rider or any other person.

Based on the evidence received and with the support of 2 SCB Officers, the following penalties have been applied –

Craig Cook – SCB Registration suspended for a period of 12 days 12th August – 23rd August 2019

Claus Vissing – SCB Registration suspended for a period of 10 days 12th August – 21st August 2019

Edward Kennett – SCB Registration suspended for a period of 10 days 12th August – 21st August 2019

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20 minutes ago, dorothy58 said:

I am sure we can get guests for both as they are in top 3

If it's 2 guests, surely it'll be Masters & Palm Toft, whose average is exactly the same as Vissing (6.80). That won't weaken Glasgow at all ( probably strengths them, if anything). Masters already has a 15pt max. at BP a couple of weeks ago & Palm Toft usually goes well at BP & will have ridden there many more times than Vissing, who I can't recall seeing there recently.

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16 hours ago, stevethelion said:

If it's 2 guests, surely it'll be Masters & Palm Toft, whose average is exactly the same as Vissing (6.80). That won't weaken Glasgow at all ( probably strengths them, if anything). Masters already has a 15pt max. at BP a couple of weeks ago & Palm Toft usually goes well at BP & will have ridden there many more times than Vissing, who I can't recall seeing there recently.

Completely and utterly absurd situation, this is the sort of thing which makes the sport a shambles and laughing stock. Giving these riders bans instead of fining them from earnings was so obviously going to create these issues, I hope the goons who made the decisions realise what they have done, but I doubt it somehow.

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7 minutes ago, Big Al said:

Completely and utterly absurd situation, this is the sort of thing which makes the sport a shambles and laughing stock. Giving these riders bans instead of fining them from earnings was so obviously going to create these issues, I hope the goons who made the decisions realise what they have done, but I doubt it somehow.

agreed 100%

If Cook had biggest ban and biggest earner should have fined him ÂŁ5000 and ban until paid

If Kennett and Vissing has same ban and probably similar earners should have fined them £3000 and ban until paid.

No Guest facility either.

That's fair to the other 9 Teams in the League.

 

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1 hour ago, GiveusaB said:

Unattached NL rider should be their only option to replace a banned rider ?

To think that  a 'punishment' makes a team stronger really is the most laughable sports product going!

I think some balance and sanity would mean either r/r, or a replacement rider with an average 50% lower than the "banned" rider, but really this shouldn't have come about at all if the matter had been dealt with properly. But probably there are no rules in place to properly cater for this situation I thought there was a resolve by BSPA to reduce the number of guests riders, well that seems to have been scrapped to judge by this fiasco.

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4 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

Unattached NL rider should be their only option to replace a banned rider ?

To think that  a 'punishment' makes a team stronger really is the most laughable sports product going!

In football you wouldn’t have an unattached youth player take the place of your star man would you?! 

 

Yes the guest situation isn’t ideal but it does mean fans still see a competitive fixture, unfortunately this country doesn’t have the privilege of having squads where a suspension/injury to one rider means another from that squad take his place. 

 

This is not a new rule re suspensions, it has been the case for years in this country. 

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1 hour ago, HGould said:

agreed 100%

If Cook had biggest ban and biggest earner should have fined him ÂŁ5000 and ban until paid

If Kennett and Vissing has same ban and probably similar earners should have fined them £3000 and ban until paid.

No Guest facility either.

That's fair to the other 9 Teams in the League.

 

i remember Danny Bird getting a ban from racing . i am not too sure , but his fine was also quite large . Danny could have returned to racing when his fine was paid .

i dont think Danny paid his fine and walked away from speedway . meetings NOT days is the fairer way of doing things . 

is Shrek in charge of the BSPA/SCB ?

 

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1 hour ago, GiveusaB said:

Unattached NL rider should be their only option to replace a banned rider ?

To think that  a 'punishment' makes a team stronger really is the most laughable sports product going!

Glasgow will never be stronger going into any meeting without Cook and i would hazard a guess that Eastbourne would be the same without Kennett

So in reality its the replacement for Vissing that could be the only issue

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2 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Unattached NL rider should be their only option to replace a banned rider ?

To think that  a 'punishment' makes a team stronger really is the most laughable sports product going!

Masters would be a great replacement for Cook but most probably not better as both would be fancied to go through the card on present form. Whoever comes into the team for Vissing may be better than him around BP but the Lions top order should be able to cope with that particular threat given they have on the whole done so with every other visiting rider this season. So with no reason for excuses from either team for this match up  the meeting should be good and competitive to say the least with only the three riders paying the price (no meeting no pay) for their unacceptable behavour at Eastbourne , which is as it should be.

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