TeamBouchard Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 James Shanes replaced Nick Agecroft in heat 11. Speedway updates is incorrect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 This should have been a Scorpions win. Our worse meeting of the season! Tonight Scorps were not at the races!. Josh and Ryan well done. Great to see Ryan ride the outside line. I think his best meeting to date. Bad luck for Ben when Scorps was in a 5.1 position to win the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TeamBouchard said: James Shanes replaced Nick Agecroft in heat 11. Speedway updates is incorrect. He is quiet right if you check !!! Are you a fan or what..........take a break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Shanes did replace Agertoft in heat 11 & probably Jenkins in 12 but as you were 6 points behind, your TS was used instead. file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Microsoft/Windows/Temporary Internet Files/Content.IE5/4JD6NV1E/scunthorpe_09.08.19_res.pdf A texter texts what he sees & hears. In heat 5 Nielsen hit a rut(bend 3-4 which others also hit) & not locked up, heat 11 as said, Shanes replaced Agertoft & heat 15 Barker was under pressure but it did not get to him, he snapped a chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Rob now prepares the track how he thinks it should be prepared, a bit on the slick side which means not a lot of dirt is sent mid to outer track on the bends. This leads to NO tractor racing/remedial work which takes up time & is a bug bear for most supporters around the country. At the talk ins, the riders have expressed a need for more dirt to get the attacking outside lines going & last night the riders said maybe a bit too much dirt got put down that caught the riders out in racing & set-ups. It shows how difficult it is to prepare a track with the weather & also, to suit everyone. Maybe a private session would have been beneficial to adapt to the different conditions for the riders maybe on the Thursday & stop over or early Friday afternoon, similar to what Eastbourne did for Bowtell & Edwards last Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Good meeting with some good racing last night.. Takes 2 good teams to make a good meeting, well done to Brummies on the draw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 18 hours ago, brianbuck said: If Laurence had made the change that you think he should have, then we would not have been able to use Garrity as a tactical substitute in the following race in which we scored the first of the two successive 5-1's which put us into the lead! Read below ??? I was right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 16 hours ago, TeamBouchard said: James Shanes replaced Nick Agecroft in heat 11. Speedway updates is incorrect. So I was RIGHT then ??? !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 16 hours ago, TeamBouchard said: James Shanes replaced Nick Agecroft in heat 11. Speedway updates is incorrect. Apologies to our manager 'Speedway fan'.....but you can see why I made the comment ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, brianbuck said: If Laurence had made the change that you think he should have, then we would not have been able to use Garrity as a tactical substitute in the following race in which we scored the first of the two successive 5-1's which put us into the lead! So was the manager wrong to make the change Brian ? Edited August 10, 2019 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 It is all if's & but's. Shanes did come in as a reserve replacement for Agertoft in heat 11 but Kinsley rode the ride of the night to 1st pass Ellis then get in front of Shanes to put us 6 points up. If Kinsley had not produced that ride then you would not have been able to use your TS ride & probably, Shanes would have been in heat 12 for Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'm not suggesting that Laurence or anyone else was wrong or right. A Team Manager has to make a decision about changes on the spur of the moment and under pressure, and is not able to wait 24 hours like we do. I've been a Team Manager for my Cycle Speedway club on occasions, and although things aren't so intense at that level, it is still a pressure job. On the one hand, you will have a rider who has just gone out and done his best, and thinks he is hard done by if he is being replaced, and he will be backed up by his parents or his mates, and there will also be times when the rider you want to bring in doesn't particularly want an extra ride and needs to be geed up to going out, plus the usual few people in the pits who want to chip in and tell you to do something different. You do try to be fair and reasonable to everyone, but inevitably there are times when you later wish you had done something else when it's too late. When you get it wrong you get pilloried, and when you get it right people will say "well anyone would have done that." It isn't the cushy job that some think it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Some of us were talking about the possible changes even before heat 11. Some of us even fill in our programmes with the changes before it is announced(an eraser or tipp-ex can come in handy later though). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, brianbuck said: I'm not suggesting that Laurence or anyone else was wrong or right. A Team Manager has to make a decision about changes on the spur of the moment and under pressure, and is not able to wait 24 hours like we do. I've been a Team Manager for my Cycle Speedway club on occasions, and although things aren't so intense at that level, it is still a pressure job. On the one hand, you will have a rider who has just gone out and done his best, and thinks he is hard done by if he is being replaced, and he will be backed up by his parents or his mates, and there will also be times when the rider you want to bring in doesn't particularly want an extra ride and needs to be geed up to going out, plus the usual few people in the pits who want to chip in and tell you to do something different. You do try to be fair and reasonable to everyone, but inevitably there are times when you later wish you had done something else when it's too late. When you get it wrong you get pilloried, and when you get it right people will say "well anyone would have done that." It isn't the cushy job that some think it is. I respect your thoughts/opinions Brian, as I always do.....but that's what make people 'good' managers (imo)…... tactically, I'd have probably brought Shanes in at Heat 9 and that's because I'd have backed him over Nielsen ? But you can't not make a change because u hope to go 6 points down ....I know we all think differently......my posts are just my opinions. Being a manager cant be easy ....you have to study the opposition and gate positions ALL through the meeting etc......may be it's a 2 man job ? My initial post wouldn't have been made had the text updates been correct!? P.s may I add ...I respect Laurence and he's far more knowledgeable than me....I'm just saying what 'I' think.....I don't expect or suggest anyone agrees with me ? : ) Edited August 12, 2019 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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