OveFundinFan Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Swindon has reshaped recently, speedway track on inside of dog track, and comments made suggest it is a big improvement. Are their any other British tracks that could be changed for the better within the existing parameters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Seem to re-call hearing a few years ago, that Neil Machin wanted to cut in to the centre green at Sheffield to make it wider, but was refused permission. Can anyone confirm if this is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Swindon has reshaped recently, speedway track on inside of dog track, and comments made suggest it is a big improvement. Are their any other British tracks that could be changed for the better within the existing parameters? The Swindon revamp apparently cost 50k so can't see many clubs doing it even if they were allowed to by the stadium owners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 King's Lynn definitely needs a width adjustment. ½ meter on the bends with more banking would make a significant difference to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: King's Lynn definitely needs a width adjustment. ½ meter on the bends with more banking would make a significant difference to start. I think the shape of Kings Lynn is fine, it’s the way it’s prepared and type of dirt used that is the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rob B said: I think the shape of Kings Lynn is fine, it’s the way it’s prepared and type of dirt used that is the problem. Primarily yes but with a redundant centre of concrete the shape could be made even better as Daniel says. But you are right, the right kind of dirt should be the first alteration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob B said: I think the shape of Kings Lynn is fine, it’s the way it’s prepared and type of dirt used that is the problem. 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Primarily yes but with a redundant centre of concrete the shape could be made even better as Daniel says. But you are right, the right kind of dirt should be the first alteration. Everyone knows what needs to be done but we have a stubborn owner. Buster once had a dream that the AFA would be a permanent home to British Speedway with GP's, World Cups etc but the National Speedway Stadium has put paid to that dream. I believe stadium development will now stall completely. At the end of the day, we know the track material will not change and neither will the track shape unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, thecoombdog said: The Swindon revamp apparently cost 50k so can't see many clubs doing it even if they were allowed to by the stadium owners. Some clubs will pay their Number Ones more than that for just one season if the stories from many 'inside the sport' are accurate.. Maybe there needs to be a couple of years plan where clubs don't pay out such money but use this investment to bring their circuits up to the standards that suit the bikes more..? It currently forks out hundreds of thousands to riders every single year, yet often the spectacle is let down by the very 'canvas' these 'artists' have to use.. Get the track right and it could deliver years and years of return on that investment.. A much higher return maybe than the short term outlay to certain riders year on year who don't actually have any real impact, in the main, on crowd levels... Many of whom, given the way the sport is ran, might not even be riding for the same club the year after.. As is seen at certain tracks.. Give these lads the platform on which to perform and they truly do deliver an awesome spectacle.. Maybe time to invest in the infrastructure more rather than the employees? A bit of short term pain for the long term gain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Years ago Trelawney had a great name as a race track, what was that like, I unfortunately never went to it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 2:27 PM, thecoombdog said: The Swindon revamp apparently cost 50k so can't see many clubs doing it even if they were allowed to by the stadium owners. SO, the Swindon revamp cost £50k. Logically, the stadium is not going to be swallowed up by housing then, no one in there right mind would spend £50k knowing the track was going to close. That’s good news, isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: SO, the Swindon revamp cost £50k. Logically, the stadium is not going to be swallowed up by housing then, no one in there right mind would spend £50k knowing the track was going to close. That’s good news, isn’t it? That is a great way at looking at it Ove i am quite happy to stay as it is a new stadium is not a must for me.The track has changed for the better and i would like to think in years to come the track would be considered .For the meetings of the calibre of the BLRC, British semi final's ( ect). Edited August 7, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Trees said: Years ago Trelawney had a great name as a race track, what was that like, I unfortunately never went to it?? I only went once and it was brilliant. Just going to the stadium was a experience. Like being on the moon with the stadium a oasis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 No doubt some race circuits could do with a revamp, but also lets not forget the actual stadiums, which are in many cases a disgrace and not able to even provide accetable (safe) viewing from around all of the track. Until this factor is addressed the sport can forget about attracting a significant increase in followers (gee theres no where for them to stand let alone sit) who are now use to watching pro sports such as Rugby, football & cricket at facilities which put speedway/dog tracks to shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, 1 valve said: No doubt some race circuits could do with a revamp, but also lets not forget the actual stadiums, which are in many cases a disgrace and not able to even provide accetable (safe) viewing from around all of the track. Until this factor is addressed the sport can forget about attracting a significant increase in followers (gee theres no where for them to stand let alone sit) who are now use to watching pro sports such as Rugby, football & cricket at facilities which put speedway/dog tracks to shame. Sadly there used to be many stadiums that had seating and good terraces but Wimbledon, West Ham, Coventry, New Cross, Hackney, Leicester, Walthamstow and Crayford have all been built on by developers. The tragic part about it is that the public expect good standard stadia, quite rightly but in many cases they are the very stadia that get knocked down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 8 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: SO, the Swindon revamp cost £50k. Logically, the stadium is not going to be swallowed up by housing then, no one in there right mind would spend £50k knowing the track was going to close. That’s good news, isn’t it? You would hope so but I just get the impression the stadium owners know speedway is on its @rse in this country and the longer they can delay it then the more likely it is there won't be a decent level of speedway left in this country and it will be a lot easier to sell the land for housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: That is a great way at looking at it Ove i am quite happy to stay as it is a new stadium is not a must for me.The track has changed for the better and i would like to think in years to come the track would be considered .For the meetings of the calibre of the BLRC, British semi final's ( ect). Couldn't agree more Sid. Don't really care about the stadium now the track has improved loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Chris116 said: Sadly there used to be many stadiums that had seating and good terraces but Wimbledon, West Ham, Coventry, New Cross, Hackney, Leicester, Walthamstow and Crayford have all been built on by developers. The tragic part about it is that the public expect good standard stadia, quite rightly but in many cases they are the very stadia that get knocked down. Spot on. How about Sheffield, great back straight for spectating, well it was before it was closed off. Now get that sorted and you have a stadium that could hold high level meetings with views for all to enjoy and attract some big crowds. I guess thats not going to happen though any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriors Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 3:39 PM, Daniel Smith said: King's Lynn definitely needs a width adjustment. ½ meter on the bends with more banking would make a significant difference to start. And there's plenty of room on inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Went to swindon few week ago... belting racing Went to wolves few days ago..... belting racing Went to scunny last week...... belting racing Go belle vue every week..... belting racing. Common denominator???????? Track was prepared perfect. Preparation is key, shape is an added bonus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Went to swindon few week ago... belting racing Went to wolves few days ago..... belting racing Went to scunny last week...... belting racing Go belle vue every week..... belting racing. Common denominator???????? Track was prepared perfect. Preparation is key, shape is an added bonus Do Poole need to up there game in that department Phil??? , Swindon has been dire for a number of years now yet they addressed the problem and spent money and the entertainment element has improved no end.Poole are a great club have good fans but they need to sort there track out sometime soon a real shame because the track was decent wait to get a backlash.!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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