GP Challenge Final (Gorican) - 24/08/19

[Shockster]

21 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

I UNDERSTAND that the weather forecast is horrific...

Maybe you'll know Phil, but why is this meeting never televised? 

I'd have thought there would be more than enough interest and a tv company wanting to show it?

[PHILIPRISING]

2 hours ago, Shockster said:

Maybe you'll know Phil, but why is this meeting never televised? 

I'd have thought there would be more than enough interest and a tv company wanting to show it?

SHOW it yes ... but go to all the expense of providing the pictures, no

[RobMcCaffery]

1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

SHOW it yes ... but go to all the expense of providing the pictures, no

Then perhaps it should be included in the next GP TV contract, as a service to the loyal followers of the sport. 

If we can have meaningless practice sessions televised (I know the cost is marginal with the cameras already there), there must be a way to provide the pictures and show one of the most significant individual meetings of the season outside the GP itself. One Sport can get their irrelevant meetings televised, even if in Britain we're supposed to be grateful to see more than a couple of races. 

As for those practice sessions, the hype is truly at desperation level and was beautifully punctured by Woffinden at the last GP. Practice timings work in a sport with grid positions or where timing is essential . Neither have ever been relevant in speedway, well unless you include 'fastest second' from the days of second half Rider of the Night events.....

Yes it's good for the sport to get an extra hour. The interviews are the only point of interest to me. I'd rather have three hours of highly significant racing tonight, involving the only stats that matter in speedway, 3 for a win, 2 for second, 1 for third. 

 

EDIT: Secondary thought: Surely Dorna are there for FIM TV? They have been in the past so if that is still the case the question of finding someone to televise it would be academic. The FIM TV highlights package used to be sold to channels such as Motors TV, like their ice racing coverage. 

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Edited August 24, 2019 by RobMcCaffery

[racers and royals]

6 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Then perhaps it should be included in the next GP TV contract, as a service to the loyal followers of the sport. 

If we can have meaningless practice sessions televised (I know the cost is marginal with the cameras already there), there must be a way to provide the pictures and show one of the most significant individual meetings of the season outside the GP itself. One Sport can get their irrelevant meetings televised, even if in Britain we're supposed to be grateful to see more than a couple of races. 

As for those practice sessions, the hype is truly at desperation level and was beautifully punctured by Woffinden at the last GP. Practice timings work in a sport with grid positions or where timing is essential . Neither have ever been relevant in speedway, well unless you include 'fastest second' from the days of second half Rider of the Night events.....

Yes it's good for the sport to get an extra hour. The interviews are the only point of interest to me. I'd rather have three hours of highly significant racing tonight, involving the only stats that matter in speedway, 3 for a win, 2 for second, 1 for third. 

I suppose the needs of the staging club have to be considered alongside the consideration for fans around the world. I`m not sure how the contract for staging the meeting is framed- if the track are paying the FIM a substantial fee for the privilege then live TV of the meeting would effect the crowd and possibly make the difference between profit and loss. 

[r8gdp]

Think it will be zarger iversen and vaculik .hoping for fricke Michelson and lambert 

[Mark]

Tap this search into Youtube.   

LIVE FIM Speedway Grand Prix World Championship - Gorican (HRV) 2019

  You should get a free stream of the meeting.    I cannot transfer the link.

[foamfence]

9 minutes ago, r8gdp said:

Think it will be zarger iversen and vaculik .hoping for fricke Michelson and lambert 

'zarger'?

[racers and royals]

4 minutes ago, Mark said:

Tap this search into Youtube.   

LIVE FIM Speedway Grand Prix World Championship - Gorican (HRV) 2019

  You should get a free stream of the meeting.    I cannot transfer the link.

That stream will NOT happen

[racers and royals]

This chap is hoping to put some races up on Instagram  https://www.facebook.com/biskupkresimir 

[RobMcCaffery]

1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

I suppose the needs of the staging club have to be considered alongside the consideration for fans around the world. I`m not sure how the contract for staging the meeting is framed- if the track are paying the FIM a substantial fee for the privilege then live TV of the meeting would effect the crowd and possibly make the difference between profit and loss. 

Then if streaming geoblock as Edinburgh Speedway are able to - a practice commonplace in the U.S. for regular TV coverage. If the staging venue is at risk from live coverage how do the SEC hosts cope in what is a much inferior competition? 

If it can't be sold to a broadcaster and if FIM TV are there then the argument for streaming, perhaps with a fee is pretty strong. As is often the case in TV, it's a matter or what will be possible, not what can be. 

Of course if there's no crew there.....Mind you streaming fees could cover a Swedish ESS-style one camera stream. It works for them on mere league matches, as we both know. 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2019 by RobMcCaffery

[racers and royals]

1 minute ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Then if streaming geoblock as Edinburgh Speedway are able to - a practice commonplace in the U.S. for regular TV coverage. If the staging venue is at risk from live coverage how do the SEC hosts cope in what is a much inferior competition? 

 

Because Onesport are the promoters and have the Eurosport tv contract bringing in money. Gorican speedway are the promoters of the challenge final. PPV internet streaming tonight could have brought in a lot of money.

[RobMcCaffery]

6 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Because Onesport are the promoters and have the Eurosport tv contract bringing in money. Gorican speedway are the promoters of the challenge final. PPV internet streaming tonight could have brought in a lot of money.

Then perhaps the solution is to have the GP Challenge under the protection of the BSI deal rather than at the risk of the Pavlic family who I presume still control Gorican. If One Sport have proved something, it is possible to elevate minor competitions to fully-sponsored, internationally televised events on the flimsiest of bases. Yes, the risk could be too much for Gorican, which is why perhaps they are an unwise choice of host. But then, how many have there been at SGP and World Final level since the glory days of the Wembley, Katowice, Gothenburg triangle?

 

[racers and royals]

Conditions perfect in Gorican at the moment

[RobMcCaffery]

22 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

 PPV internet streaming tonight could have brought in a lot of money.

Better speedway gets the cash than illegal streamers. 

 

[racers and royals]

1 minute ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Better speedway gets the cash than illegal streamers. 

 

Who is to blame for not being forward thinking enough to set it up- the FIM ? The host club ?(the contract might not allow them to do it)

[RobMcCaffery]

11 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Conditions perfect in Gorican at the moment

Yes, time to focus on realities, not possibilities. 

3-2-1-0 - that's what it's all about. 

Edited August 24, 2019 by RobMcCaffery

[RobMcCaffery]

2 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Who is to blame for not being forward thinking enough to set it up- the FIM ? The host club ?(the contract might not allow them to do it)

The whole question needs to be reviewed at a high level. Speedway is missing out on available income. The problem, as always, is a lack of vision. As ever, we are crying out for people who can move us logically into the modern world. 

 

[topaz325]

1 minute ago, RobMcCaffery said:

The whole question needs to be reviewed at a high level. Speedway is missing out on available income. The problem, as always, is a lack of vision. As ever, we are crying out for people who can move us logically into the modern world. 

 

Pay per view?

[Kedavra]

Still no confirmed streams then?

[RobMcCaffery]

6 minutes ago, topaz325 said:

Pay per view?

Yes. It is the way forward for major events not covered by a TV deal. Take Sweden this year - PPV in use. 72 matches plus 10 play-offs over 5 months at about £16 per month. About £1 per match!