The Doctor... Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Maybe it's not being shown cos it's under investigation? Yeh looking at the my phone, i have a tiny clip as cook is led away another rider is grappling with someone in black who takes a swing at him.. So obviously a lot more than the initial clash is being looked at i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbs Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 The Flag Marshall must be banned from all speedway tracks .You cant treat a Gp rider like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 The video certainly doesn't support the picture being painted by some of Cook travelling at speed, deliberately riding into the track marshall and then head butting him. What I see is Cook traveling slowly and the Marshall in the middle of track stepping in front of Cook. Cook didn't head butt him, he barged him with his shoulder. It makes those who weren't there but who have been prepared to believe the worst descriptions of the incident and call for Cook to be hung drawn and quartered, look foolish. The marshall should not have been on the track and should not have stepped in front of Cook, who should not have shoulder barged him. On this evidence it all seems a bit of a storm in a teacup compared to some of the original descriptions. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve0 said: What was the man with the red flag doing in the middle of the track? It looks like the rider is going to go past the flag man (at slow speed) but the man decides to move to his left to block the rider cauSing the rider to ride into him. In reaction to that, the rider tries to head butt him - which is clearly not an acceptable reaction but the flag man was definitely in the wrong but that doesn’t excuse the head butt. Good to finally see some evidence of what happened. 1. The flag Marshall should NEVER be on track waving a flag. That is putting himself and a rider at risk. As a Marshall you are told to stand behind a perimeter area (usually coned out) and definitely NOT on the track. What this Marshall did was take the law into his own hands and stand in the middle of the track waving a flag and then veer towards the riders path. You are a Marshall with duties, not a vigilante. Has he been trained? Doesn’t look it to me or Eastbourne don’t take the safety of people in the middle very seriously. 2. Cook was totally in the wrong riding at him (although in fairness what else could he done with the Marshall aiming himself at him). There was no excuse for head butting him either. Very unprofessional behaviour and surely he has to be reprimanded following this? The Marshall was the person who instigated this tho so is equally as guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Good to finally see some evidence of what happened. 1. The flag Marshall should NEVER be on track waving a flag. That is putting himself and a rider at risk. As a Marshall you are told to stand behind a perimeter area (usually coned out) and definitely NOT on the track. What this Marshall did was take the law into his own hands and stand in the middle of the track waving a flag and then veer towards the riders path. You are a Marshall with duties, not a vigilante. Has he been trained? Doesn’t look it to me or Eastbourne don’t take the safety of people in the middle very seriously. What if he was on the track already tho ? The introduction were happening at this point remember.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Currently a threat of rain for Thursday. Hopefully the forecast will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Poole should win this fairly easily especially as Ipswich will most likely be without Heeps but strange things happen hopefully not thursday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Currently a threat of rain for Thursday. Hopefully the forecast will change. Hope it chucks it down and they re arrange when I'm off work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 hours ago, The Doctor... said: What if he was on the track already tho ? The introduction were happening at this point remember.. Absolutely. At Ipswich it is common place for an official with a flag in that position during the introductions. Their job is ensure practice starts dont take place on the turn that would cause dangerous ruts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 all I hope for is a decent meeting .I would think this could be the highest attendance of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 hours ago, stevebrum said: Good to finally see some evidence of what happened. 1. The flag Marshall should NEVER be on track waving a flag. That is putting himself and a rider at risk. As a Marshall you are told to stand behind a perimeter area (usually coned out) and definitely NOT on the track. What this Marshall did was take the law into his own hands and stand in the middle of the track waving a flag and then veer towards the riders path. You are a Marshall with duties, not a vigilante. Has he been trained? Doesn’t look it to me or Eastbourne don’t take the safety of people in the middle very seriously. 2. Cook was totally in the wrong riding at him (although in fairness what else could he done with the Marshall aiming himself at him). There was no excuse for head butting him either. Very unprofessional behaviour and surely he has to be reprimanded following this? The Marshall was the person who instigated this tho so is equally as guilty. Not quite sure why this is on the Poole v Ipswich meeting thread, but as I put on the other thread, the flag marshall was acting as instructed as the ref had put the red lights on when Cook set off before the rider parade and presentations had been completed - in fact were less than half way through. Cook nor any other rider should have been riding the track at that point - end of!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ray c said: all I hope for is a decent meeting .I would think this could be the highest attendance of the season Could it be the battle of the 6-man teams?! Poole shouldn't be letting Ippo get close to the draw even if Bomber does what Bomber can do! And I can't believe Lawson will be as bad as his last visit! Edited August 6, 2019 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Could it be the battle of the 6-man teams?! Poole shouldn't be letting Ippo get close to the draw even if Bomber does what Bomber can do! And I can't believe Lawson will be as bad as his last visit! Well reserves are supposed to win meetings and Ippo have the best on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Fight back from the witches, or another wheel trundling along on its own,, mmmmmm mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Well reserves are supposed to win meetings and Ippo have the best on paper. Yes true but they aren't riding like that currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 hours ago, The Doctor... said: What if he was on the track already tho ? The introduction were happening at this point remember.. NO marshal should ever be on track when bikes are. Simple. 48 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Not quite sure why this is on the Poole v Ipswich meeting thread, but as I put on the other thread, the flag marshall was acting as instructed as the ref had put the red lights on when Cook set off before the rider parade and presentations had been completed - in fact were less than half way through. Cook nor any other rider should have been riding the track at that point - end of!! No marshal should ever be on track when bikes are. Only if safe to do so. Cooks actions are a different matter. The fact Cook WAS on the track meant the Marshall should NOT be! Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Do these "marshalls" have any kind of induction before they are given the job, I say that loosely as all the probably get is free entry. We haven't seen any of the "afters" that went on. I wonder why. Does it show others in a bad light ?Cook should be fined, that marshall was half of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Do these "marshalls" have any kind of induction before they are given the job, I say that loosely as all the probably get is free entry. We haven't seen any of the "afters" that went on. I wonder why. Does it show others in a bad light ?Cook should be fined, that marshall was half of the problem. The Marshall was in the wrong but Cook's reaction was wrong and he should be banned for bring the sport in to disrepute. There is no excuse for Cook's actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, stevebrum said: NO marshal should ever be on track when bikes are. Simple. No marshal should ever be on track when bikes are. Only if safe to do so. Cooks actions are a different matter. The fact Cook WAS on the track meant the Marshall should NOT be! Simples. They always have been esp at Lakeside when they hold the rope out so riders couldn't take a sneaky look at the gates or turn 1 from the other side. Cook was in the wrong I'm afraid, the ref seemed to think so anyway if he put his red lights on. And what's this a few years ago when he nearly ran over the track doctor??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, foreverblue said: The Marshall was in the wrong but Cook's reaction was wrong and he should be banned for bring the sport in to disrepute. There is no excuse for Cook's actions. the marshall put his self in danger and craig in danger no brakes and all that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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