The Doctor... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: I'm glad you think that the Glasgow fans were fine if being glad to get out off the place counts as fine. There comments were posted on a tigers fans page and certainly don't paint a pretty picture. Your last paragraph does not make sense unless you remove 'seemingly'. However whilst it would make grammatical sense it would be factually incorrect. If the glasgow fans feared for getting out of the place then they are bigger snowflakes than some of the clowns on here. There wasn't a squeak from the eastbourne fans near them all night. Plenty of kids running around yes, terrace hooligans, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 hours ago, SharpenRake said: What actions were taken by the club/rider? In Glasgow's case 3 riders mistakenly (I assume they were advised of the procedures - they are totally different from Glasgow's) rode off before they should have. Red lights (allegedly) are put on, riders have 2 options, go back to an area that is apparently teeming with children, staff etc etc or ride around away from the 'danger area' to the pits. The 3 riders are clearly travelling slowly and headed towards a pit gate when the marshall becomes involved. The marshall having created the problem then walks away and lets other Eastbourne people including Eastbourne riders create a riot. How were the Glasgow management meant to stop a riot? Was Michael Max expected to walk up to the Eastbourne staff/ riders and say 'look could you stop this please, this sort of thing isn't very nice?' I'm not sure how anyone can defend Cook, but it makes for entertaining reading! The problem was started by Cook not SM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: I'm not sure how anyone can defend Cook, but it makes for entertaining reading! The problem was started by Cook not SM. Fuming that we're agreeing again, but totally agree. All this guff about red lights, riders having no options but to ride away from supposed danger areas etc etc. The pit return is half way down the straight at arlington for a start so they would have had to go back across the intro area to leave anyway. And also, forget the red lights, as Shov alluded to, when have you ever seen a team act like utter nobs and steam off on their practise laps while the introductions were still ongoing. Childish behaviour at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Bl**dy hell - SharpenRake must have doubled his post count on this thread alone. Amazing since he wasn't even at the meeting. C. Cook is obviously the most guilty - no argument. Others have some level of guilt e.g. Kennett. But the marshall was trying to do his job and pointed to Cook to go one way but when Cook didn't he then tried to shuffle backwards and got hit by the bike and then the rider, so the marshall was deffo not guilty or responsible. TheScotsman - the voice of reason and justice. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, TheScotsman said: Bl**dy hell - SharpenRake must have doubled his post count on this thread alone. Amazing since he wasn't even at the meeting. C. Cook is obviously the most guilty - no argument. Others have some level of guilt e.g. Kennett. But the marshall was trying to do his job and pointed to Cook to go one way but when Cook didn't he then tried to shuffle backwards and got hit by the bike and then the rider, so the marshall was deffo not guilty or responsible. TheScotsman - the voice of reason and justice. Were you at the meeting or double standards? #justasking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 hours ago, SharpenRake said: What actions were taken by the club/rider? In Glasgow's case 3 riders mistakenly (I assume they were advised of the procedures - they are totally different from Glasgow's) rode off before they should have. Red lights (allegedly) are put on, riders have 2 options, go back to an area that is apparently teeming with children, staff etc etc or ride around away from the 'danger area' to the pits. The 3 riders are clearly travelling slowly and headed towards a pit gate when the marshall becomes involved. The marshall having created the problem then walks away and lets other Eastbourne people including Eastbourne riders create a riot. How were the Glasgow management meant to stop a riot? Was Michael Max expected to walk up to the Eastbourne staff/ riders and say 'look could you stop this please, this sort of thing isn't very nice?' Jackanory 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I'm not sure how anyone can defend Cook, but it makes for entertaining reading! The problem was started by Cook not SM. Another that can't understand what is being said but just wants to have a go at Cook, surprising for a poo le fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Well now I have seen the video - storm in a teacup. No idea what the flag marshall was playing at - does he no know that speedway bikes have no brakes ? Cook looked caught in two minds how to avoid the marshall but the marshall seemed intent on committing suicide. Needs further training. Then some silly so and so in black shirt and trousers with a beard comes running up to Craig Cook, a rider in helmet and full racegear and throws a punch. Lucky he didnt break his hand - crash helmets are very hard. I then see two Eastbourne riders numbers 1 and 7 I think come dashing down the track to join in - what was that all about ???? Wasn't as good I was expecting to be honest - better action when Wolves were visitors years ago. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Another that can't understand what is being said but just wants to have a go at Cook, surprising for a poo le fan Yes, you are trying to pin it on the SM, as Cook 'started' on the SM, there is only one person who instigated it. He often gets boo'd at Poole, so def not a fave down here! Edit- But yes as a Poole fan I have no reason to defend Eastbourne! Edited August 7, 2019 by lisa-colette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Well now I have seen the video - storm in a teacup. Then some silly so and so in black shirt and trousers with a beard comes running up to Craig Cook, a rider in helmet and full racegear and throws a punch. Lucky he didnt break his hand - crash helmets are very hard. Might be worth a second watch - it's Paul Dugard apparently who approaches Cook and mouths off in his face. Cook throws the first punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 It really is quite simple. Glasgow, led by Cook, pushed off early, no doubt as a way of a bit of spiteful get back at the digs offered over the mic by Eastbourne. THAT should have been the end of it with perhaps a warning to Cook and the other riders. Cook was clearly leaving the track, as you do when the red flag is shown on the parade until the marshal instigated the next incident by needlessly and recklessly stepping in front of Cook. Cook responded, a bit of argy bargy and what would have been the end of it... Until Paul Dugard then takes it upon himself to escalate things further and charge up to Cook and stick his face right into him, no idea what was said, but that caused Cook to throw the first punch. Nobody comes out of it with any credit, but effectively the 'incidents' all ended and were started again by different protagonists. It may not seem savory but reality is, it's great for speedway. Absolutely fantastic in fact. Who wants to miss the next time Cook/Glasgow come to Eastbourne, or indeed even when Eastbourne visit Glasgow next? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Loved cooks little side step on kennels charge and leave his leg out tripping Kennett up. Cook then proceeded to jump on Kennet striking him. Brilliant. And BTW I bet the same ppl moaning about all this are the same ppl from the 70s,80s and 90s who use to love a good punch up at the speedway. And of the day. Eastie will get a fine. Glasgow will get a fine, cook will get a fine, vissing will get a fine, kennett will get a fine and then all of them will move on being best mates 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil The Ace said: Loved cooks little side step on kennels charge and leave his leg out tripping Kennett up. Cook then proceeded to jump on Kennet striking him. Brilliant. And BTW I bet the same ppl moaning about all this are the same ppl from the 70s,80s and 90s who use to love a good punch up at the speedway. And of the day. Eastie will get a fine. Glasgow will get a fine, cook will get a fine, vissing will get a fine, kennett will get a fine and then all of them will move on being best mates My favourite part is Vissing being hauled out of the ruck on about 30 secs back across the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Why the hell do people have to go on about speedway bikes having "no brakes"? Just because they don't, doesn't mean you can't stop the ruddy things! If you look at the video posted by Dugard, there was PLENTY of time for Cook to slow down - as he should have done. He didn't make any attempt to slow down until he was right on top of the marshal. Of course, that's assuming he was looking where he was going (and saw the marshal waving a large piece of red cloth in broad daylight). Even though he wasn't racing, he certainly should have been watching. No, I'm not saying Cook deliberately rode into him, but it looks to me that he thought the marshal wouldn't get in his way, which under the circumstances, would be foolish to assume. Whenever you are operating a motor vehicle, you don't just assume that people are going to jump out of the way, particularly in a situation like this. Okay, the marshal may have been better not stepping in front of him, but you know, in most situations, the rider would have at least attempted to slow to a crawl at least. The other riders on track didn't seem to have any any problems slowing down and stopping, did they? Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Loved cooks little side step on kennels charge and leave his leg out tripping Kennett up. Cook then proceeded to jump on Kennet striking him. Brilliant. And BTW I bet the same ppl moaning about all this are the same ppl from the 70s,80s and 90s who use to love a good punch up at the speedway. And of the day. Eastie will get a fine. Glasgow will get a fine, cook will get a fine, vissing will get a fine, kennett will get a fine and then all of them will move on being best mates That last sentence is absolutely spot on, end of the day we could go on for ever and a day arguing who is at fault and who is not fine all of those who have mention in that sentence and lets move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 hours ago, jenga said: i take it J C is jesus christ ? Jenga 4 hours and no posting are you okay you had me worried.I have a we job for you to do can please find out for me if the Workington fans who purchased season tickets for this year have received their refunds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Loved cooks little side step on kennels charge and leave his leg out tripping Kennett up. Cook then proceeded to jump on Kennet striking him. Brilliant. And BTW I bet the same ppl moaning about all this are the same ppl from the 70s,80s and 90s who use to love a good punch up at the speedway. And of the day. Eastie will get a fine. Glasgow will get a fine, cook will get a fine, vissing will get a fine, kennett will get a fine and then all of them will move on being best mates Until the next Craig Cook hissy fit. Funny how he has a problem with the Eastbourne track but doesn't mind when one of his KL mates try and dig a tunnel in the Poole track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) I think Craig is looking at the track as he comes round the corner with not much speed because he is heading to leave the track and doesn’t see the Marshall till the last minute when he suddenly sees him not expecting to see him there which angers him think if the Marshall didn’t get in the way then nothing would have happened craig Claus and Kyle would have went straight to the pits as the gate was open because it’s where everybody came running from Edited August 7, 2019 by mac101 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Until the next Craig Cook hissy fit. Funny how he has a problem with the Eastbourne track but doesn't mind when one of his KL mates try and dig a tunnel in the Poole track Was that the hole Shovlar denied was there yet it was as big as the mersey tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Was that the hole Shovlar denied was there yet it was as big as the mersey tunnel. 3 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Was that the hole Shovlar denied was there yet it was as big as the mersey tunnel. Nah, they were trying to start a brand new one off. Luckily the track staff saw and sorted it when KL riders went back to the pits. Thank goodness they didn't confront Cook about it, prob would have lost it again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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