Eastbourne v Glasgow Semi Final

[Fromafar]

5 minutes ago, alang said:

Surely the most appropriate punishment would be to ban both Eastbourne and Glasgow from the shield.Then ban Leicester because Stuart Dickson used to be manager at Glasgow then award the shield to Berwick as the only remaining semi - finalist.Also award it to Berwick because we"re nice - pretty useless admittedly, but nice.

Also think would should be awarded League Title as we are the only Team not to make a rider change.In the spirit of the Sport of course

[Grachan]

11 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

I'll give you a wee hand, this is straight from the SCB rule book, the only section mentioning the red flag. So, did the referee put the red lights on?!

 

14.14 The TRACK CURATOR (who must be formally approved by the SCB) ensures the track and all connected aspects receives timely and suitable preparation prior to and during a Meeting. a) They must be fully aware and responsible to ensure compliance of these Regulations, specifically Art.9.2.1 (provision of a fixed APD’s, spare APD Panels and Inflatable Pumps), Art.9.2.2 (advertising on fences), Art. 9.2.3 (Neutral Zone), Art.9.2.4 (Infield requirements), Art.9.2.5 and 9.2.5.1 (Inner and Outer Edge markings) and Art.9.5 (minimum equipment requirements and shale). b) confirm to the Referee by means of the Meeting Certificate of the type and quantity of Equipment available and that it is in working order. c) Assisted by Track Marshals ensure that the track is clear of all objects as soon as the 2-minute warning is sounded and that the Red Flags are shown immediately the Referee shows the Red Stop lights.

Excellent point. No sign of red lights being on in the video I saw.

[Solidmango]

3 minutes ago, timetoturnleftagain said:

Has the full video been posted in this long thread? other than the short clip from Martin Dugard, I’ve been sent a link to the longer version but it’s a Facebook link so you may need an account to view it if I post the link.

No, only the shortened version has been posted. 

[Fromafar]

c’mon get it on here ,let’s see a good handbags at dawn. Just to finish this thread off.(or another 20 pages)

[timetoturnleftagain]

7 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

No, only the shortened version has been posted. 

Have a look on Shaun Tacey Facebook page full video there. I can’t seem to link it here for some reason. 

Edited August 6, 2019 by timetoturnleftagain

[Solidmango]

1 minute ago, timetoturnleftagain said:

Have a look on Shaun Tacey Facebook page full video there. 

Not showing unless friends with him. What's the title of the video and we may be able to track it down?

[timetoturnleftagain]

4 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

Not showing unless friends with him. What's the title of the video and we may be able to track it down?

Old school speedway still exists

if anybody else is better technically than me and is also friends with him they may be able to link it here. 

Edited August 6, 2019 by timetoturnleftagain

[Solidmango]

5 minutes ago, timetoturnleftagain said:

Old school speedway still exists 

No luck finding it unfortunately. 

[lucifer sam]

24 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

I'll give you a wee hand, this is straight from the SCB rule book, the only section mentioning the red flag. So, did the referee put the red lights on?!

 

14.14 The TRACK CURATOR (who must be formally approved by the SCB) ensures the track and all connected aspects receives timely and suitable preparation prior to and during a Meeting. a) They must be fully aware and responsible to ensure compliance of these Regulations, specifically Art.9.2.1 (provision of a fixed APD’s, spare APD Panels and Inflatable Pumps), Art.9.2.2 (advertising on fences), Art. 9.2.3 (Neutral Zone), Art.9.2.4 (Infield requirements), Art.9.2.5 and 9.2.5.1 (Inner and Outer Edge markings) and Art.9.5 (minimum equipment requirements and shale). b) confirm to the Referee by means of the Meeting Certificate of the type and quantity of Equipment available and that it is in working order. c) Assisted by Track Marshals ensure that the track is clear of all objects as soon as the 2-minute warning is sounded and that the Red Flags are shown immediately the Referee shows the Red Stop lights.

And I'll give you a wee hand - there wasn't a race going on, so the above is redundant. 

Not sure if the ref would have been even at the controls for the pre-meeting parade. 

A Red Flag means slow down and come to a halt. Cookie doesn't seem to slow down at all.  He had plenty of time to throttle off.

[Solidmango]

1 minute ago, lucifer sam said:

And I'll give you a wee hand - there wasn't a race going on, so the above is redundant. 

Not sure if the ref would have been even at the controls for the pre-meeting parade. 

A Red Flag means slow down and come to a halt. Cookie doesn't seem to slow down at all.  He had plenty of time to throttle off.

No race - no need for marshals, pretty simple really. He slows down when the fruit cake with the red flag steps in his way!! 

[timetoturnleftagain]

10 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

No luck finding it unfortunately. 

I can video from the tele to my phone but the file would be to large to upload here I think as it’s about 2 minutes. 

[tyretrax]

1 hour ago, Richard Weston said:

Cook should have been stationary before reaching the marshal. He should have stopped long before that point.

We get it, Cook shouldn't have left the starting gate but the marshall shouldn't try to stop a bike with no brakes by jumping in front of it.

[tyretrax]

1 hour ago, lucifer sam said:

In what way is the marshall incorrecly?

By trying to stop a bike with no brakes with his body.

[Tsunami]

I understand that at first the ref wanted to take Cook out of the meeting, but the Eastbourne promotion asked for him to be reinstated so as to not weaken the meeting. I believe Cook will be dealt with in an alternative way.

[GlasVegas]

1 minute ago, Tsunami said:

I understand that at first the ref wanted to take Cook out of the meeting, but the Eastbourne promotion asked for him to be reinstated so as to not weaken the meeting. I believe Cook will be dealt with in an alternative way.

such as making him take part in next season's SON!!

[HGould]

1 hour ago, Solidmango said:

I'll give you a wee hand, this is straight from the SCB rule book, the only section mentioning the red flag. So, did the referee put the red lights on?!

 

14.14 The TRACK CURATOR (who must be formally approved by the SCB) ensures the track and all connected aspects receives timely and suitable preparation prior to and during a Meeting. a) They must be fully aware and responsible to ensure compliance of these Regulations, specifically Art.9.2.1 (provision of a fixed APD’s, spare APD Panels and Inflatable Pumps), Art.9.2.2 (advertising on fences), Art. 9.2.3 (Neutral Zone), Art.9.2.4 (Infield requirements), Art.9.2.5 and 9.2.5.1 (Inner and Outer Edge markings) and Art.9.5 (minimum equipment requirements and shale). b) confirm to the Referee by means of the Meeting Certificate of the type and quantity of Equipment available and that it is in working order. c) Assisted by Track Marshals ensure that the track is clear of all objects as soon as the 2-minute warning is sounded and that the Red Flags are shown immediately the Referee shows the Red Stop lights.

independent neutral evidence is that RED LIGHTS were put on a good 20 seconds before Cook and Marshall had coming together at least full home straight travelled with red lights on. 

obviously we will all have to wait to see any video evidence about  that; but been confirmed to me by a Poole fan and a Kent fan present  via PMessage on Facebook.

[tiger tiger]

6 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

I understand that at first the ref wanted to take Cook out of the meeting, but the Eastbourne promotion asked for him to be reinstated so as to not weaken the meeting. I believe Cook will be dealt with in an alternative way.

Utter nonsense 

[lucifer sam]

1 minute ago, HGould said:

independent neutral evidence is that RED LIGHTS were put on a good 20 seconds before Cook and Marshall had coming together at least full home straight travelled with red lights on. 

obviously we will all have to wait to see any video evidence about  that; but been confirmed to me by a Poole fan and a Kent fan present  via PMessage on Facebook.

Oh.  Even longer ban coming for Mr Cook, if that's the case.

[HGould]

4 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

I understand that at first the ref wanted to take Cook out of the meeting, but the Eastbourne promotion asked for him to be reinstated so as to not weaken the meeting. I believe Cook will be dealt with in an alternative way.

surely if ref says he is OUT he is out and why would Eastbourne or any other club want opposition No 1 reinstated?

I would argue that if cook had gone out in Heat 1 and won it like he did Heat 5 the whole match mood would have been different and result possibly different too. His actions deeply affected his own Team and certainly as much an impact of result as anything Eastbourne did on or off the track.

No word from Cook; Glasgow or any Cook backers as to why he did not go out for Heat 1? 

[GlasVegas]

2 minutes ago, HGould said:

independent neutral evidence is that RED LIGHTS were put on a good 20 seconds before Cook and Marshall had coming together at least full home straight travelled with red lights on. 

obviously we will all have to wait to see any video evidence about  that; but been confirmed to me by a Poole fan and a Kent fan present  via PMessage on Facebook.

It is also entirely reasonable to believe that Cook (and other riders still on track) were heading back to the pits (why else be riding so slowly in that direction) - so why the need for an over zealous marshall to go to such lengths of stupidity?