craigACE Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 The line-up not being as strong as whenever. Of course not. The Sport has changed. I went into it thinking the same. But at the same time thinking, Oh yeah, Good, Speedway on the telly. When it started i honestly wished i was there. Fans from all over the place. The 2 Glasgow fans(a couple) were really enjoying themselves. It had everything. Wrong decision. A worthy Champion. Fun. Yes FUN in our Sport. Danny Ayres. What a guy. I knew about his personal story from reading the Star a few weeks back. I am sure our lad, Bewley would have been up there. the lad is struggling. He will come again. The coverage by BT was really good. Tai doing the heat line-up. LOL. I could not sleep for ages through going over all the thrills and spills back in my head. Tell you what i would give last night 10/10 for entertainment. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, crescent girl said: The rule is actually 'if the race is stopped the referee shall exclude the culprit' - there's no 'first bend doesn' t count' caveat. So if referees are allowed to regularly ignore that rule by ordering 'all four back' re-runs after a bingle on the first turn, they can theoretically do so at any stage, on any lap. Which would lead to all sorts of stuff, l fear. Last night, the rider 'who was the cause of the stoppage' was maybe 25% Stevie Worrall, 75% Paul Starke. Never Charles Wright. You say 25% Stevie Worrall, 75% Paul Starke, never Charles Wright. Not the case imho. If putting percentages on it, more like 60% Charles Wright, although a racing accident as has been said. If you look at the different angles, the rear view showed Starke moving out to the fence, but that's a natural line for a rider to take coming out of the 2nd bend, at the time coming out of the 2nd bend Starke was ahead so he was entitled to go out to the fence and a natural line to take, coming out of the 2nd bend Wright was behind and yes he had more speed, that's why he overtook Starke, but he should have seen Starke and the natural line he was taking out to the fence and taken account of it, instead he was going so fast that he quickly shot past Starke and as he did he clattered Starke who was by now further out to the fence and the natural line that Starke was already on or taking. That's obvious on the side view, and while it looks rather different on the rear view, its the side view that is the truer reflection on what actually happened. If you take it from Starke's point of view he was following the natural line coming out od the 2nd bend out to the fence down the back straight and he got taken out by somebody clattering him on his way past. As the car insurance forms question asks "If one thing could have prevented this accident what would it be?" then the answer to that question is that if Wright had stayed behind Starke there would have been no contact and no accident. Although I agree with others that all four back would have been a fairer way to deal with it and just a genuine racing accident. Starke knew nothing about it, he would've needed eyes in the back of his head to see Wright. On slowing it down and replaying it a few times that's obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Toad said: Yes the racing was good once the track settled down and some of the moves were incredible and it's why we love the sport but you could virtually pick 3 of the finalists before the start and apart from TW and RL we have no one remotely near international class. I'm not having that, no one would have picked Charles Wright, Chris Harris is up and down at the NSS. Cook yes and probably king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Swindon in a way are the same i only look to score 41/42 pts away as our away form is poor maybe that could change with Musielak back but at home we should build up good leads.For me just say if you had Auty/Berge at reserve with Lidsey in the top five that is stronger than you have at the moment and you would certainly score more home points at home. Well Nikalai Busk Jacobsen is in for Aarnio for the rest of the season, hopefully he can replicate his poole form from last season, I would certainly settle for 40/42 points away we are far off that at the moment. Edited July 30, 2019 by bellevueace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: I'm not having that, no one would have picked Charles Wright, Chris Harris is up and down at the NSS. Cook yes and probably king. I think a lot of people had Wright down as a strong chance to make the podium so to say nobody would have picked him is a touch strong. Harris if any was the surprise package with Worrall or Schlein the only others likely to mount a real challenge as the others are just too inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedybee Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Fantastic to see Charles Wright take this and not altogether unexpected for those of us who have rated him so highly for a while now. After Coventry closed I moved to Somerset and have been watching the Rebels whenever I can and Wright stood out for me during the first two years of seeing him tackle the Oak Tree Arena as a truly exciting rider, a bit hit and miss at times, but when on his game, usually very exciting to watch. Pure box office. I greatly regretted Rebels not being able to tempt him back for whatever reason and as a result, supporting the team has been less exciting as a result - a bit like winning the clock back a decade or so to golden days at Brandon with the two veterans Harris and Schlein now leading the team in their twilight years but missing the true excitement of an up and coming hero such as Wright in the ranks. I wonder what the management are currently thinking after this triumph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 hours ago, jenga said: no , its only a fractured wrist . Craig said it was fractured on his social media and the Glasgow spiel machine put it down as a broken and over sold it to joe public . typical stuf frae Glasgow ..nuff sed .. Dr. Jenga, What is the difference between fractured and broken please? Thanks, A. Layman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, jenga said: no , its only a fractured wrist . Craig said it was fractured on his social media and the Glasgow spiel machine put it down as a broken and over sold it to joe public . typical stuf frae Glasgow ..nuff sed .. Would you be an armchair speedway rider????? Pulled from the internet:- 1) A wrist fracture is a medical term for a broken wrist. 2) How long does it take for a fractured wrist to heal? eight weeks. It might take eight weeks or longer for your wrist to heal. More severe breaks may not fully mend for six months. Easy sat at home is'nt it. If Cookie says he has a fractured wrist he has by definition a broken wrist which could take 8 weeks or longer to mend.... in the meantime he will be suffering discomfort, especially when trying to control a fast speedway bike at speeds of 60mph plus, all for your entertainment and him earning a living to feed his wife and child. As for me, and no doubt you, we get a cold and want a week off work. Edited July 30, 2019 by OveFundinFan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Congrats to Charles, deserved winner. Those few meetings with Somerset at the end of 2013 had the feeling of a last opportunity at that level and if it was he's certainly taken it. Improved every year since then and whilst he probably won't reach GP level there's still more to come from him. Hope he can have a good meeting at Cardiff. Special mention to Danny Ayres too, keep up the entertainment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheScotsman said: Dr. Jenga, What is the difference between fractured and broken please? Thanks, A. Layman hi layla . i am not too sure , but at a guess i would say one you put a cast or heavy strapping , the other is left to heal in its own time with no support . ..... thats the way i see it.... especially as Craig said it was a fracture and therefore not a break . any other health problems , just msg me with your ailments . Dr J in medical terms , a fracture is also called a . a break , Craig said his wrist was fractured . Edited July 30, 2019 by jenga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 hours ago, marko said: Pinny summed it up best when he mentioned Cook is a bit like Stonehewer, exceptional rider at div 2 level, good rider at div 1 level but not world class level and most of the time will struggle when against a field of established world class riders, that however is still a level a lot of riders will never get near too, some riders will never be more than a div 2 reserve. Its impossible to compare like for like era's but you have to wonder how some riders would have gone had they been around in the 80s when doubling up was not an option, personally putting aside the argument of the amount of rides and viability to only race one league, I have always felt it holds a rider back. Watched them both a lot over the years, craig cook is nowhere near as good as stonehewer was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Pretty sure he said a bone in his wrist was fractured... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Well done Charles Wright , thoroughly deserved win last night, Danny Ayers Mr entertainment, great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Congratulations to Charles Wright, best rider on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, Midget said: Watched them both a lot over the years, craig cook is nowhere near as good as stonehewer was. Would agree.Plus Stoney was not that good at BritishLeague top level at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Charles has a busy week coming up ,rest assured when he gets home to Redcar on Sunday he will get a great well done Well done again - UTB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Midget said: Watched them both a lot over the years, craig cook is nowhere near as good as stonehewer was. DOESN'T make him a bad person or a bad rider. If he gives 100 per cent that's all you can ask of anybody. And the time he takes to interact with fans is a big plus. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: DOESN'T make him a bad person or a bad rider. If he gives 100 per cent that's all you can ask of anybody. And the time he takes to interact with fans is a big plus. Where does he say he is a bad person or a bad rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Rampant envy can be the only explanation for the odd instances of criticism of the racing and the Belle Vue track on this thread. BV is the only true, proper speedway circuit in this country and speedway fans lucky enough to live anywhere near this superb venue have basically won the speedway lottery of life. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Midget said: for someone who was a gran prix rider just a year ago Does grandad know about this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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