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King's Lynn vs Peterborough. Thursday July 25th


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2 hours ago, Haza said:

Forever the loyalist that’s trees lol  None of the above matter when the promotion (and I used the word promotion in a very lose way as there isn’t much promoting going on ) doesn’t have any intention of using red shale they are quite happy using clay based with a few stone thrown in - sooner everyone realises its all about stock cars rather than speedway the better 

It has been a stock car track for years though, I can't remember when we last had red shale on there, probs in my early days. I think it's a combination of track surface, bikes (laydowns/silencers) and riders. BUT it's what we have, I still admire the guys doing the job, still love supporting my team and there is nothing better than a great speedway race :)

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5 minutes ago, Trees said:

It has been a stock car track for years though, I can't remember when we last had red shale on there, probs in my early days. I think it's a combination of track surface, bikes (laydowns/silencers) and riders. BUT it's what we have, I still admire the guys doing the job, still love supporting my team and there is nothing better than a great speedway race :)

Great speedway races at Lynn are a thing of the past, you have more chance of enjoying roast Dodo for Sunday dinner ...

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2 hours ago, foreverblue said:

I am surprised you saw much passing at Leicester, i have been quite a few times and the only time i remember a decent race was when Doyle and Janowski had battles there, last time i went it was more boring than the AFA. 

I actually said close racing.  it was far better than that I've seen at the AFA recently.   There were quite a few good races that were closely fought.   plus the fans were were happy and  that created a good atmosphere...  something badly missing from todays meetings....

2 hours ago, semion said:

Webbo have you took the time out to roughly calculate how much of your dough Ray me that you have ‘invested’ in Speedway over the years ?

Surely you must have had some pleasure out of it over the last half century ?

I have some fantastic memories of wonderful races.   when we use to get there early,  just to have somewhere to park.   How times have changed..    Now instead of thousands on the gate, we only get hundreds.   Where once we watched 20 to 22 races  now its only 15 and they are dragged out to last the same amount of time..      Once the riders use to come in the bars for a drink and a chat, now they cant get away quick enough.    There's so many changes and not many of them are pluses.

As for the costs I hate to think.    I once did a roll-call on the amount of money I spent on fags.   20 fags a day for 40 years equates to around £100k  wasted in todays money.     Fortunately they were easier to give up than the speedway drug as I packed up 10 years ago..     I often as I've threatened  to pack up  going to speedway, so far I haven't managed it.     

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2 hours ago, tellboy said:

I would think it would take at least a day to relay a new track. 

 A day,  where do you get that from?     The base is already there.   You only have to scrape the top off  and apply the proper stuff.     Then it just a matter of  spreading it out and  grading it. 

Two years ago,  when the Danish riders used the AFA for official practice day.  Buster and his posse completely removed the sodden  crap on the track and re-laid a completely new surface. in just over the hour..    proving it wouldn't take as long as you think…...

That day there were 26 riders going at it all day and the track was perfect.   

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28 minutes ago, g13webb said:

 A day,  where do you get that from?     The base is already there.   You only have to scrape the top off  and apply the proper stuff.     Then it just a matter of  spreading it out and  grading it. 

Two years ago,  when the Danish riders used the AFA for official practice day.  Buster and his posse completely removed the sodden  crap on the track and re-laid a completely new surface. in just over the hour..    proving it wouldn't take as long as you think…...

That day there were 26 riders going at it all day and the track was perfect.   

It’s still a solid day of work to completely relay a track and pack it in.

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42 minutes ago, g13webb said:

I actually said close racing.  it was far better than that I've seen at the AFA recently.   There were quite a few good races that were closely fought.   plus the fans were were happy and  that created a good atmosphere...  something badly missing from todays meetings....

I have some fantastic memories of wonderful races.   when we use to get there early,  just to have somewhere to park.   How times have changed..    Now instead of thousands on the gate, we only get hundreds.   Where once we watched 20 to 22 races  now its only 15 and they are dragged out to last the same amount of time..      Once the riders use to come in the bars for a drink and a chat, now they cant get away quick enough.    There's so many changes and not many of them are pluses.

As for the costs I hate to think.    I once did a roll-call on the amount of money I spent on fags.   20 fags a day for 40 years equates to around £100k  wasted in todays money.     Fortunately they were easier to give up than the speedway drug as I packed up 10 years ago..     I often as I've threatened  to pack up  going to speedway, so far I haven't managed it.     

There were some fantastic races in the world cup at Kings Lynn not that many years ago. The best meeting I have seen this year was at Peterborough but apparently that was the only one that has been any good.

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If the will was there Buster could get hold of whatever shale Belle Vue use and lay that for speedway and the clay crap for stock cars, I’m sure it’s much closer to a day than an hour to achieve but it could be done. He could also eat into as much of the concrete centre as he wanted to make the track a rounder and wider one making Lynn one of the best speedway tracks in the world. 

If the will was there. 

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3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

If the will was there Buster could get hold of whatever shale Belle Vue use and lay that for speedway and the clay crap for stock cars, I’m sure it’s much closer to a day than an hour to achieve but it could be done. He could also eat into as much of the concrete centre as he wanted to make the track a rounder and wider one making Lynn one of the best speedway tracks in the world. 

If the will was there. 

After years of very poor racing, i would guess there is no will to improve things unfortunately ...

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24 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

If the will was there Buster could get hold of whatever shale Belle Vue use and lay that for speedway and the clay crap for stock cars, I’m sure it’s much closer to a day than an hour to achieve but it could be done. He could also eat into as much of the concrete centre as he wanted to make the track a rounder and wider one making Lynn one of the best speedway tracks in the world. 

If the will was there. 

It's possible, no doubt about it. We have the banking there, as you say, make it shorter and wider so it rides more like a circle.

The shale thing could also be done. Would be a big initial outlay, but the shale would last as it will be removed after every  meeting that bangers followed..

Down to money and desire I guess.

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3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

It's possible, no doubt about it. We have the banking there, as you say, make it shorter and wider so it rides more like a circle.

The shale thing could also be done. Would be a big initial outlay, but the shale would last as it will be removed after every  meeting that bangers followed..

Down to money and desire I guess.

100% down to desire or lack of it - we was the same with the air fence or safety foam barrier seems to remember in the PL days  we had Oxford air fence the club wanted volunteers to put the air fence up and take it down not many or any people came forward so the air fence sat round the back of the terracing pit end and riders continued to get injured John Oliver was one - so I guess if we all turned up with wheel barrows we could have proper red speedway shale lol 

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15 hours ago, Haza said:

Forever the loyalist that’s trees lol  None of the above matter when the promotion (and I used the word promotion in a very lose way as there isn’t much promoting going on ) doesn’t have any intention of using red shale they are quite happy using clay based with a few stone thrown in - sooner everyone realises its all about stock cars rather than speedway the better 

I think most people realise it's about stock cars,even Trees.But she is dedicated to speedway and credit should go to her on that.If you had the business what would you do?If Stock cars earns you so much more surely you would look after that side as much as possible.

Even if he produced the best ever racing strip at the speedway,how many more people would turn up?Probably a couple of hundred at best.Look at Belle Vue best track,well what ive been to anyway and they aren't pulling in the big crowds.

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On 7/22/2019 at 11:27 AM, Trees said:

Have you got the money to put in to alter the tracks, they can't do just what they want when they're shared venues either. We have so many issues going against us compared to other countries.  Do any tracks in Poland, Sweden and Denmark share their tracks with stock car/banger racing or dog racing? No I believe. The majority of their tracks are community owned, what a fantastic situation they find themselves in!!

Kings Lynn was a fantastic track with plenty of passing and riders feeling good about attacking the track,from what I've seen on BT Sports that is no longer the case, and this has been backed up by other speedway fans. It doesn't need massive amounts spent on it, just a good track curator and a bit of backing from Busted.

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7 hours ago, semion said:

With all this blast from past talk about what a great track Saddlebow was, I’ve come up with the simple answer.

 

Get Terry Betts back at Number one 

Even He would have difficulties riding the track like he once did.   Going back to that first meeting in '65 , when Bettsy won,  the track then offered more overtaking than it does today....

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Buster has proved in the BT Sports Peterborough meeting the other week. Spouting they'll have the best track available for all to see in front of the cameras. 

What was produced was a smooth, extremely fast track. Buster even said it was a great meeting after. 

The man's delusional, he firmly believes faster is better. 

Even at King's Lynn with Iversen and Lambert together, he was producing a track so they could go out and try and break the track record. Iversen especially used to constantly look back at the scoreboard to check his race time. 

King's Lynn's track is still very very capable to produce quality racing, unfortunately, Buster's version of quality racing is by how fast the race times are, not the passing 

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