King's Lynn vs Peterborough. Thursday July 25th

[cityrebel]

The british public don't want to go to speedway anymore. Cheaper admission would only be a short term fix. Once all of us old fogies have died off, its days as a professional sport will be over.

[Halifaxtiger]

21 hours ago, semion said:

Fair play to Barry n the IOW.   Thats how to make fans feel valued.

He simply doesn't miss a trick. 

No other promoters go on the BSF never mind trying to arrange a lift for one fan speaking on a thread totally unconnected with his club. 

It was something of that kind that turned me into an Isle of Wight advocate over 3 years ago and I have never had any reason to waver from that.

19 hours ago, Star Lady said:

In some ways I admire Trees for her unwavering support for Lynn, but I think her views would be taken more seriously if she did occasionally notice some of the negatives.

 

I think you're right 

Truth is you have to call it as you see it. You might not always be right - and you are often not popular as I have found out several times - but at least you are being honest.

Speedway is neither all positive or all negative, and never has been. There are good and bad points to every club and almost every meeting, and most if not all have more of one than the other. 

For that reason, - and as you have said - the posts of those who see just one side or the other lack credence and value and are almost always motivated by their own prejudice.

To be fair to Trees, if she has a major role within the supporters club being critical is difficult simply because of how close she will be to the promotion.  

Edited July 27, 2019 by Halifaxtiger

[Halifaxtiger]

23 hours ago, semion said:

Fair play to Barry n the IOW.   Thats how to make fans feel valued.

To put his ethos a bit more into perspective, he was at Plymouth last night.

By the account I got, the referee ordered extensive track work before the meeting started. When it did, the surface was clearly still dangerous and further work was ordered (the Isle of Wight facebook page states two clubs wanted the meeting calling off). 

You can just imagine how some promoters would have taken the opportunity to put the boot into Plymouth (and, in truth, that would have been at least partly justified).

I have it on good authority that Barry entertained children by giving them a taste of riding a speedway bike (albeit while it was standing still, there's a film on the Isle of Wight facebook page) chatted to spectators and assisted with the track work by manning a tractor.  

More power to his elbow 

[Warriors]

No wonder there's very little passing on a track like that, no excuse for the weather it's purely down to material used, you can't race and feel confident you just don't know how the bike going to react.

[Bagpuss]

17 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

I have no problem with Tree's or anyone else enjoying Speedway.

Seeing as I get criticism for being only negative (which I am with regards to the King's Lynn owner) then the same has to said of those that only see positive does it not?

As many have said numerous times this year and previous at King's Lynn, the atmosphere is flat, racing none existent etc etc. 

Would be interested to know from those that are still so in love with King's Lynn, what it is that genuinely keeps them going?

In terms of Belle Vue, they do have the best track in the world but they haven't got the same promoting mentally as Glasgow & Isle of Wight. 

These clubs make their fans feel included and listened too. 

I think Trees’ opinions probably could be more balanced just like yours but both you and Haza have laughed at her in this thread as well as accusing her of cosying up to the promotion and getting in for free. As I said she deserves more respect, especially as you two don’t go anymore (completely understand why) and she works hard for the supporters club etc . 

[Bagpuss]

6 minutes ago, Warriors said:

No wonder there's very little passing on a track like that, no excuse for the weather it's purely down to material used, you can't race and feel confident you just don't know how the bike going to react.

Interesting that Craig Cook had his say on BBC Radio Norfolk yesterday in an interview recorded on Thursday evening, he said that the track is over prepared early on and you can’t race until it slickens off towards the end of the meeting. Makes you wonder if a rider coming out and saying something might do any good. Probably not but you never know. 

[Kickitov]

10 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Interesting that Craig Cook had his say on BBC Radio Norfolk yesterday in an interview recorded on Thursday evening, he said that the track is over prepared early on and you can’t race until it slickens off towards the end of the meeting. Makes you wonder if a rider coming out and saying something might do any good. Probably not but you never know. 

So the public are aware of the track issues, the riders obviously are, but what chance of Buster listening?? 

[Haza]

10 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I think Trees’ opinions probably could be more balanced just like yours but both you and Haza have laughed at her in this thread as well as accusing her of cosying up to the promotion and getting in for free. As I said she deserves more respect, especially as you two don’t go anymore (completely understand why) and she works hard for the supporters club etc . 

Most definitely Trees should have a more balanced approach even she can’t be so blind to what’s going on at the club and the sport in general and just for once a word of criticism she’d get 100% more respect - as I said she must get in free as I can’t think of any other reason why she defends the club on every angle I apologise for any offence caused on that one  if as it seems I was wrong - most definitely can’t fault the work at the supporters  club .

[mrss]

If Trees wants to see everything good in the Stars team and promotion , it's her choice. So stop knocking her and get on with your own lives.

[waytogo28]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Interesting that Craig Cook had his say on BBC Radio Norfolk yesterday in an interview recorded on Thursday evening, he said that the track is over prepared early on and you can’t race until it slickens off towards the end of the meeting. Makes you wonder if a rider coming out and saying something might do any good. Probably not but you never know. 

So Buster beginning the track prep at 5 am, as we were told, means that it's all wasted effort. But if he wears top quality ear muffs on the tractor it means he cannot hear the rider advice. Anyway, what do they know about track prep?

[Bunce]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Interesting that Craig Cook had his say on BBC Radio Norfolk yesterday in an interview recorded on Thursday evening, he said that the track is over prepared early on and you can’t race until it slickens off towards the end of the meeting. Makes you wonder if a rider coming out and saying something might do any good. Probably not but you never know. 

When Chris Holder kicked off about the track, he was shown the door!  Not the same situation obviously, but Buster doesn't take kindly to his track being criticised.

[Booey boy]

22 minutes ago, waytogo28 said:

So Buster beginning the track prep at 5 am, as we were told, means that it's all wasted effort. But if he wears top quality ear muffs on the tractor it means he cannot hear the rider advice. Anyway, what do they know about track prep?

So Cook is saying he can only ride a slick track if you want to be a top rider you should be able to ride anything

[Bagpuss]

19 minutes ago, Booey boy said:

So Cook is saying he can only ride a slick track if you want to be a top rider you should be able to ride anything

Nope, he’s saying Lynn is overprepared to start with on race night, I’ve commented on this before about riders hanging on to the bike and getting strung out because the track is too grippy and hard to ride. He’s saying people can race properly once it’s slickened off a bit. So from a punter’s point of view surely it would be better to start off a bit slicker. 

[All4back]

2 hours ago, The Stag said:

So the public are aware of the track issues, the riders obviously are, but what chance of Buster listening?? 

When Holder and Batch wanted him to listen didn't they end up refusing to ride and then they were sacked just in time for them not to be able to sign for another British club.

[castrolargh]

The trouble is , the track is TOO grippy meaning the person that gets out on front on a fast bike cant be caught unless he makes a mistake, as the track has nothing to give.Ride the fastest line , race over. It's only when the track is prepared slicker(very rare) or left alone to settle and develop racing lines that we see better racing and even then its flat out round the boards to get anywhere. 

Obviously this is only my opinion, but the track is too grippy with relatively long straights and tighter bends compared to other tracks that produce closer racing with the modern engines  Apart from Peterborough which now also seems to be a flat out super fast track.The riders always seem to praise the track as its great to ride , apparently, but it's not great as a spectacle any more

[stevebrum]

4 hours ago, Booey boy said:

So Cook is saying he can only ride a slick track if you want to be a top rider you should be able to ride anything

Exactly. Cook is unlikely to reach that status. 

[Warriors]

7 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Interesting that Craig Cook had his say on BBC Radio Norfolk yesterday in an interview recorded on Thursday evening, he said that the track is over prepared early on and you can’t race until it slickens off towards the end of the meeting. Makes you wonder if a rider coming out and saying something might do any good. Probably not but you never know. 

We'll apparently Ty proctor did say something to buster and he politely got told don't forget who pays your f***ing wages, so basically your wasting your time as he doesn't want to know.

[maneacat]

On 7/26/2019 at 4:47 PM, gustix said:

In a possible scenario - just what could Chris Louis do if Buster Chapman insisted on more control at Ipswich? 

 

Im pretty sure Witches will be ok for this season as Buster is preoccupied with destroying Peterborough but who knows what next year may bring!  

[Warriors]

5 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Nope, he’s saying Lynn is overprepared to start with on race night, I’ve commented on this before about riders hanging on to the bike and getting strung out because the track is too grippy and hard to ride. He’s saying people can race properly once it’s slickened off a bit. So from a punter’s point of view surely it would be better to start off a bit slicker. 

Spot on.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

On 7/26/2019 at 4:47 PM, gustix said:

In a possible scenario - just what could Chris Louis do if Buster Chapman insisted on more control at Ipswich? 

He could trigger the guaranteed buy back clause that was set in the deal....