flagrag Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, mickthemuppet said: One of the main reasons BT do not want British Speedway is they have paid a fantastic amount of money to show WWE Wrestling next year.They have lost the tennis Grand Slams which they used to show and look like losing WTA tennis to Amazon who have also got the rights to mens tennis BT did want to keep British Speedway but the BSPA decided to go with Eurosport offer as it was 5 rather than 3 years and Eurosport pushed about how they could show it free to air in UK along with possible European coverage. I really would like to know who advised the BSPA on the deals and hopefully it was not for a large fee. There are advantages and disadvantages to both broadcasters BT Advantages- Household name channel, Lots of promotion and advertising alongside prime sports, Flexible with scheduling to fit in with rain offs, UHD coverage, large social media presence and crucially committed.Happy for clubs to do own filming and post video online . Catch up service a good production budget Eurosport Advantages- 5 year deal, possibilities of Pan European coverage, free to air on Quest on limited occasions. It does worry next year in particular that Speedway will get bumped due to over running more core sports to them and with the Olympics even more so. Also Eurosport do not have a good track record of being the host broadcaster and are better in just taking another broadcasters feed like they do with Snooker,Tennis,Cycling,Olympics Edited October 21, 2019 by flagrag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 is this end for Tatum and Nigel ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, flagrag said: BT did want to keep British Speedway but the BSPA decided to go with Eurosport offer as it was 5 rather than 3 years and Eurosport pushed about how they could show it free to air in UK along with possible European coverage. I really would like to know who advised the BSPA on the deals and hopefully it was not for a large fee. There are advantages and disadvantages to both broadcasters BT Advantages- Household name channel, Lots of promotion and advertising alongside prime sports, Flexible with scheduling to fit in with rain offs, UHD coverage, large social media presence and crucially committed.Happy for clubs to do own filming and post video online . Catch up service a good production budget Eurosport Advantages- 5 year deal, possibilities of Pan European coverage, free to air on Quest on limited occasions. It does worry next year in particular that Speedway will get bumped due to over running more core sports to them and with the Olympics even more so. Also Eurosport do not have a good track record of being the host broadcaster and are better in just taking another broadcasters feed like they do with Snooker,Tennis,Cycling,Olympics Sadie Wigglesworth of Hatfits Limited? https://www.hatfits.com/who-we-are Edited October 21, 2019 by Noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 At least one thing is certain, speedway fans have been brought up on a history of delayed starts and therefore Eurosport is the perfect channel. Hope you like watching the back end of tennis events. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, moxey63 said: At least one thing is certain, speedway fans have been brought up on a history of delayed starts and therefore Eurosport is the perfect channel. Hope you like watching the back end of tennis events. And then think of it from Eurosport’s point of view, and fans of other sports: speedway will ruin their schedules! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaykay2PT Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, orion said: is this end for Tatum and Nigel ? Hopefully, YES!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, foamfence said: In Sweden and Poland they use that term. They may well do.....but we aren’t in Sweden or Poland, and it was a British press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hodgy Posted October 21, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, orion said: is this end for Tatum and Nigel ? Hopefully no. Like or loathe they promote Speedway with passion. Isn’t that what we continually crave? 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Noodles said: Sadie Wigglesworth of Hatfits Limited? https://www.hatfits.com/who-we-are so links with F1, wonder if Robin Brundle gave Buster the heads up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Richard Weston said: Speedway is back on free-to-view TV. That has to be a massive plus. I’m not so sure. Paying customers fell significantly at televised matches when the broadcast was on a pay channel (when only a proportion of fans had access to it). If a match is live on free-to-air TV I expect the crowd might suffer even more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 All this talk of highlights shows... history shows that Eurosport put zero effort into compiling highlights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: Take your point. Until the details are published, we won't know but I would say (as others have) that a neatly packaged highlights show would work well. Similar to the ones that turn up on ITV4 for motorsport events would suit most people. 9 minutes ago, iainb said: All this talk of highlights shows... history shows that Eurosport put zero effort into compiling highlights A highlights show requires broadcast quality filming at all venues every week - I can’t imagine the budget stretches to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: I’m not so sure. Paying customers fell significantly at televised matches when the broadcast was on a pay channel (when only a proportion of fans had access to it). If a match is live on free-to-air TV I expect the crowd might suffer even more. It could indeed but at the same time you can look at it and say, well now we really have to up our game to get people to come and pay to watch it in person rather than sitting back and taking fans for granted, The whole it’s on TV debate no longer holds any water as look at the play offs finals over the years, played on a Week night, school the next day, live on TV and yet still the places have been packed out, fans will come if it matters enough and you make it come across as a must see in person event, for the rest of the campaign, it’s not and that’s why terraces are near empty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Sotonian said: You can watch them live on the official YouTube channel for free, in HD, with no adverts at all. Thanks but doubt you can record it. 25 mins of action spread over 3.5 hours needs the fast forward button. I generally start watching it from the start when it’s half way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hodgy said: Thanks but doubt you can record it. 25 mins of action spread over 3.5 hours needs the fast forward button. I generally start watching it from the start when it’s half way through. I often do that, which gives me a Eurosport issue on BT. It seems Eurosport is £4 a month. Or £10 a month if you want to be able to record it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 hours ago, stevehone said: so links with F1, wonder if Robin Brundle gave Buster the heads up? No doubt - it’s not what you know, but who you know that’s important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Sotonian said: You can watch them live on the official YouTube channel for free, in HD, with no adverts at all. This refers to watching the GP`s- you can only if you have a VPN from a country which hasn`t a TV contract for the GP`s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, racers and royals said: This refers to watching the GP`s- you can only if you have a VPN from a country which hasn`t a TV contract for the GP`s. Indeed, luckily my browser has a built-in one which works seamlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: A highlights show requires broadcast quality filming at all venues every week - I can’t imagine the budget stretches to that. And a person to edit it 2 hours ago, NeilWatson said: I’m not so sure. Paying customers fell significantly at televised matches when the broadcast was on a pay channel (when only a proportion of fans had access to it). If a match is live on free-to-air TV I expect the crowd might suffer even more. and rose significantly when the meeting was promoted with reduced admission 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, iainb said: All this talk of highlights shows... history shows that Eurosport put zero effort into compiling highlights Eurosport does best the promotional videos advertising upcoming shows than the actual shows themselves When Screensport shut down in 1992 and speedway fans were promised, we were safe with Eurosport. I haven't believed anyone ever since. They showed shows that weren't scheduled but not ones that were. I've heard they've not changed that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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