ArthurRudge Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 23 hours ago, gustix said: The reason: there are more people in the UK interested in tennis than there interested in speedway. Yep and that is not even debatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 20 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not sure how that will work. Eurosport don’t film themselves but take feeds. So who is going to be the broadcaster for Eurosport? I heard it's going to be re run videos pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, JCookie said: What else, to ensure long term prosperity, did they do with it? Even if it wasn't entirely spent on one rider then a lot of it was. Nothing has been done to change the sport long term. 100k a club in a league of 8? 9? Will we ever see money like that again. If you don't know it's best not to guess. It misguides others who think that what you are saying is true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Another Monday, three Prem matches and BT Sport are showing nothing, what's the point of them covering the league? its not just the live meeting, its a round up of what has been happening, for the non regular fans/armchair fans, how are they supposed to stay invested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, marko said: Another Monday, three Prem matches and BT Sport are showing nothing, what's the point of them covering the league? its not just the live meeting, its a round up of what has been happening, for the non regular fans/armchair fans, how are they supposed to stay invested? Let's be honest. . It's all a bit Mickey Mouse isn't it? They are very lucky to even have a TV company showing the racing over here, and I would think it's only due to the SGP coverage that they already have that BT bothered to come on board.. Imagine if the sport went out on mainstream TV and someone trying to explain last weeks Peterborough team to the watching millions? Or last year's Grand Final where two riders who ride for neither team were initially planned to represent both finalists, swap at 'half time', and change teams..? And then explaining how riders can swap teams every week of the season, effectively destroying their own season, their own teams' season, and, incredibly, their own fans' season, by scoring points for rivals who are competing for the same competition title.. Sometimes it's for the best that no one seems too bothered.. Speedway, (in the UK) should be grateful it gets any coverage at all.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, marko said: Another Monday, three Prem matches and BT Sport are showing nothing, what's the point of them covering the league? its not just the live meeting, its a round up of what has been happening, for the non regular fans/armchair fans, how are they supposed to stay invested? OR it could be that tracks racing on a Bank Holiday hope for bigger than usual crowds and don't want TV to affect that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, marko said: Another Monday, three Prem matches and BT Sport are showing nothing, what's the point of them covering the league? its not just the live meeting, its a round up of what has been happening, for the non regular fans/armchair fans, how are they supposed to stay invested? Seriously i wonder if it is because Natalie would have been at the Solihull match. I think. I have recorded that but not watched it yet. I was watching Inter Milan instead. If that was the case there would have been nobody to present it. I am not sure tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Let's be honest. . It's all a bit Mickey Mouse isn't it? They are very lucky to even have a TV company showing the racing over here, and I would think it's only due to the SGP coverage that they already have that BT bothered to come on board.. Imagine if the sport went out on mainstream TV and someone trying to explain last weeks Peterborough team to the watching millions? Or last year's Grand Final where two riders who ride for neither team were initially planned to represent both finalists, swap at 'half time', and change teams..? And then explaining how riders can swap teams every week of the season, effectively destroying their own season, their own teams' season, and, incredibly, their own fans' season, by scoring points for rivals who are competing for the same competition title.. Sometimes it's for the best that no one seems too bothered.. Speedway, (in the UK) should be grateful it gets any coverage at all.. Been broached many times on here before. Consensus of opinion among the faithful seems to be that they won't notice so say nothing. But if they do notice and ask questions tell them to shut up and watch the racing. Works every time - just looking at the sport's growing popularity tells you that. Edited August 26, 2019 by Barney Rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Barney Rabbit said: Been broached many times on here before. Consensus of opinion among the faithful seems to be that they won't notice so say nothing. But if they do notice just tell them to shut up and watch the racing. Works every time - just looking at the sport's growing popularity tells you that. That would class as funny, if it were not so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, mikebv said: Let's be honest. . Speedway, (in the UK) should be grateful it gets any coverage at all.. As the old saying goes mikebv "many a true word". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Speedway Star did a piece the other week questioning speedway clubs' season-long chopping and changing of riders. The article was bang on. The season is just a continuation of practice matches. Perhaps if sides lost a certain number of match points for every change they made, they wouldn't be so hasty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: OR it could be that tracks racing on a Bank Holiday hope for bigger than usual crowds and don't want TV to affect that. So . . a confession from Mr R that televised speedway DOES affect attendances trackside I’ve said this all along, and I still see no benefit to the sport in having league matches televised live in the UK It’s not as if it’s a great product to advertise to the wider public in the current format Much better would be a carefully edited weekly highlights package - just show the races, and sensible interviews post-meeting instead of the gap-filling chats as at present Put together a package that just might attract new spectators and ex-attendees to the tracks 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Midland Red said: So . . a confession from Mr R that televised speedway DOES affect attendances trackside I’ve said this all along, and I still see no benefit to the sport in having league matches televised live in the UK It’s not as if it’s a great product to advertise to the wider public in the current format Much better would be a carefully edited weekly highlights package - just show the races, and sensible interviews post-meeting instead of the gap-filling chats as at present Put together a package that just might attract new spectators and ex-attendees to the tracks Me and you same...I've being saying it for years. Who is the target audience? Those who already go or to attract new fans or indeed new sponsors? Edited August 27, 2019 by steve roberts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 6:45 PM, steve roberts said: If I recall it was 1996 although they had been banned from the British League for a year but, as everything, got overturned and hence costs spiralled even more out of control. from what i can make out of these lay down engines , they look like uprights (poss same) but with engine plates made up to put the engine on a forward tilt . inlet/exhaust manifold and exhaust need re tweaking . other than that . looks like a bog standard speedway engine . there is no reason why the cost of speedway should be rising so quickly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, steve roberts said: Me and you same...I've being saying it for years. Who is the target audience? Those who already go or to attract new fans or indeed new sponsors? Those who already go are probably best suited to introduce new fans. I was introduced by a current fan. I introduced my youngest brother when he was 11, giving him a blank programme and showing him how to fill it in before he even attended a match. As he has said a few times, if he didn't know what it was all about and didn't know the scoring, he'd probably have not returned. That is why live matches on TV might not be encouraging new fans. It is a great spectacle but after a while, even cake becomes boring. New fans have got to understand the scoring system. Forget the rules, as they would have new fans running to the hills. Edited August 28, 2019 by moxey63 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Neither my sons or grandsons have ever show interest in speedway despite my taking them to meetings several times. I particularly recall one meeting at Wimbledon. We were upstairs in the stand with a wonderful view of the track and the racing. My sons spent most of the evening kneeling on the floor racing toy cars! Another time I was there with two grandsons who kept asking "...how long does this all go on for..." and conceded "we keep seeing four men ride round on motorbikes. What else happens?" Edited August 28, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 23 hours ago, moxey63 said: Speedway Star did a piece the other week questioning speedway clubs' season-long chopping and changing of riders. The article was bang on. The season is just a continuation of practice matches. Perhaps if sides lost a certain number of match points for every change they made, they wouldn't be so hasty. I blame forums like this as much as anything for team changes. There are loads of pages full of "we need to replace xxx". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 16 hours ago, steve roberts said: Me and you same...I've being saying it for years. Who is the target audience? Those who already go or to attract new fans or indeed new sponsors? PROBABLY three times as many people watch British speedway on television than actually attend. TV is good for general awareness that speedway still exists and for sponsorship both with riders and tracks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) A full list of all the team changes this season are available to view as I keep the SGB Premiership, Championship and National league pages upto date on Wikipedia. SGB Premiership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGB_Premiership_2019 SGB Championship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGB_Championship_2019 National League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_National_League_speedway_season Edited August 28, 2019 by Robbie B 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) I genuinely label speedway in the same bracket as wresting, or even when Popeye steps in to save Olive Oil from the hands of Bluto in the vintage cartoons. In wrestling, the guy who is being thrown about like a Bonfire Night Guy, but summons enough strength in the end to win the day. We know it's not real, genuine. Popeye's the same. He uses his available tin of spinach and comes come at the end. The good guy always wins. Speedway has gone the same. I'd say (usually) Poole have fathomed out the precise time to use the spinach, having gone much of the summer looking like that home-made Guy doll. Edited August 28, 2019 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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