BWitcher Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, orion said: Woffy is miles ahead of Lee only a idiot would think otherwise .. Hence Sidney... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, orion said: Woffy is miles ahead of Lee only a idiot would think otherwise .. What would you know !!!! IPSWICH at home we meet for the first time if not the forum know the truth you are a bottler.As for Witcher the twitcher he did not even get to see Lee live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Sidney the robin said: What would you know !!!! IPSWICH at home we meet for the first time if not the forum know the truth you are a bottler.As for Witcher the twitcher he did not even get to see Lee live. 179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, orion said: 179 Everyday from now Ipswich at home will be mentioned . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, iris123 said: How can you say Tai never qualified ? He did, just the same as Briggo did by winning the title He got a wildcard given to him the likes of Greg Laguta never got a freebie ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Everyday from now Ipswich at home will be mentioned . 180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: He got a wildcard given to him the likes of Greg Laguta never got a freebie ever. Didn’t Briggo get a wildcard into the final one year ? Yes or no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I have an opinion merely based on having seen them both ride many times and irrespective of titles won That is that Michael Lee was a better rider than Tai Woffinden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: What would you know !!!! IPSWICH at home we meet for the first time if not the forum know the truth you are a bottler.As for Witcher the twitcher he did not even get to see Lee live. Eloquently put. I saw Lee live several times, he was absolutely awful. As apparently that's all that matters in your world it doesn't stand him in good stead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Midland Red said: I have an opinion merely based on having seen them both ride many times and irrespective of titles won That is that Michael Lee was a better rider than Tai Woffinden An opinion with nothing behind it but bias...i.e. meaningless. At times Lee may have been better, but overall he simply was not. A career is judged over many years and the achievements there within. On that Lee threw it all away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Are you guys on about the same Lee who was a bit of a character ?. If so even that will divide people from one extreme to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: He got a wildcard given to him the likes of Greg Laguta never got a freebie ever. And he has qualified every year since... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Crumpet77 said: Michael Lee is the most naturally talented English speedway rider i have seen, unfortunately he never made the most of that talent. Which is pretty much what I said. Yet according to Sidney, that means I classed him as an also-ran... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, BWitcher said: An opinion with nothing behind it but bias...i.e. meaningless. At times Lee may have been better, but overall he simply was not. A career is judged over many years and the achievements there within. On that Lee threw it all away. Also Woofy can put a surfboard on his roof rack as well as a bike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Crumpet77 said: Michael Lee is the most naturally talented English speedway rider i have seen, unfortunately he never made the most of that talent. That is exactly what i have heard about him. Not making the most of his talent. Lets just say what things he got up to are probably the reasons why he should not be compared to Tai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, BWitcher said: An opinion with nothing behind it but bias...i.e. meaningless. At times Lee may have been better, but overall he simply was not. A career is judged over many years and the achievements there within. On that Lee threw it all away. Not bias - no reason to be It’s an opinion based on what I’ve seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, craigACE said: That is exactly what i have heard about him. Not making the most of his talent. Lets just say what things he got up to are probably the reasons why he should not be compared to Tai. Any comparison I make has nothing to do with “things” either rider have ever got up to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Midland Red said: Any comparison I make has nothing to do with “things” either rider have ever got up to Wish people felt that way when talking about Carter, but no, we're not supposed to mention him... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, chunky said: Wish people felt that way when talking about Carter, but no, we're not supposed to mention him... Totally agree - superb rider, top class 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Yeah. Carter. Before my time again. I read the piece that Steve Park did in the Diamonds programme v Berwick in June. Seems there was allsorts to mention about him. Talent. But OMG what happened. Leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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