Sidney the robin Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 12:23 PM, BWitcher said: It just shows the pure unselfishness of Tai. Giving others the opportunity to win. You don't get that with many sportsmen. Tai,would not of done this with Lee,Carter, Jessup, Collins Louis, ( etc) he would of been picking up the scraps, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Tai,would not of done this with Lee,Carter, Jessup, Collins Louis, ( etc) he would of been picking up the scraps, He'd have wiped the floor with that collection of perennial bottlers and loose cannons He doesn't compete against part timers with a bike strapped to the back of their car. The sport of speedway has never been more professional at the highest level. The rest of the world has moved on massively, GB hasn't... Tai excepted. Edited August 10, 2019 by BWitcher 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: He doesn't compete against part timers with a bike strapped to the back of their car. They were lucky to 'ave a car! I used to carry t' bike on back o' t' bicycle! Straps? I had t' use stale chewing gum to keep it in t' place... But we were 'appy in those days... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Tai,would not of done this with Lee,Carter, Jessup, Collins Louis, ( etc) he would of been picking up the scraps, If ther British Final had riders of that standard in it then it would be more worth Tai riding in it. The meeting is an event filled with second division riders and is a qualifier for a wild card in a world championship meeting for which Tai has already qualified. Surely it is better to have a meeting where the winner qualifies, rather than whoever is second. The meeting itself was better for not having a world champion wiping the floor with everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 hours ago, BWitcher said: The rest of the world has moved on massively, GB hasn't... Tai excepted. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 14 hours ago, orion said: Crazy statement .. Rosco record is outstanding at club and as team Gb manager the stats don't lie he might have got it wrong about Harris but hardly anyone better at the time to be honest . The last bit it's a contradiction .. You say it's pointless then point out that it's not pointless as you can get into the biggest speedway meeting of the year You're right, the stats don't lie, every time Woffy is in the side performances improve dramatically. That has sweet FA to do with Rosco. He doesn't even have to call to exclude Woffy if he wanted to. Thanks to Rob Painter and Vicky Blackwell, Rosco is nothing more than a puppet and only has the task of picking 2 riders for the SON & each heat (Woffy picks himself & Rosco still ball's up). The training sessions etc are zero to do with Puppet Rosco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: You're right, the stats don't lie, every time Woffy is in the side performances improve dramatically. That has sweet FA to do with Rosco. He doesn't even have to call to exclude Woffy if he wanted to. Thanks to Rob Painter and Vicky Blackwell, Rosco is nothing more than a puppet and only has the task of picking 2 riders for the SON & each heat (Woffy picks himself & Rosco still ball's up). The training sessions etc are zero to do with Puppet Rosco. As been said before we came last in the run off with Woffy in the team before Rosco took over . can't remember getting 2nd or 3rd or getting in the final then ..it's quite funny when we get beat it's all his fault when we do well it's nothing to do with him . Of course any sports team who have the best player in the world will improved it's hardly the stuff of sherlock holmes . The bottom line is even if you don't like him Rosco record is outstanding at club and with team with Gb who coming last in runs off with Woffy in the team before he took over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 hours ago, BWitcher said: He'd have wiped the floor with that collection of perennial bottlers and loose cannons He doesn't compete against part timers with a bike strapped to the back of their car. The sport of speedway has never been more professional at the highest level. The rest of the world has moved on massively, GB hasn't... Tai excepted. He never conquered Britain he never was a top dog in the once toughest league in the world.He rides for himself, Craven,Lee,Collins all above Woffinden in my estimation.A peak Lee beats Woffinden all day long no doubt in my mind that is not taking away anything from what Tai has achieved in the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: He never conquered Britain he never was a top dog in the once toughest league in the world.He rides for himself, Craven,Lee,Collins all above Woffinden in my estimation.A peak Lee beats Woffinden all day long no doubt in my mind that is not taking away anything from what Tai has achieved in the sport. Nah, he's been a top dog in a much much tougher one. Both the Polish and Swedish leagues have been stronger.. a LOT stronger than the old BL ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Nah, he's been a top dog in a much much tougher one. Both the Polish and Swedish leagues have been stronger.. a LOT stronger than the old BL ever was. Lee would wipe the floor with him the Lee who beat Carter 4.0 in the helmet would gate and go finished in the first lap.Woffinden is the boy now but Craven, Lee, Collins are better riders end of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Lee would wipe the floor with him the Lee who beat Carter 4.0 in the helmet would gate and go finished in the first lap.Woffinden is the boy now but Craven, Lee, Collins are better riders end of. Yawn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, chunky said: Yawn... Yawn with you, you send me to sleep chunky, also are you saying Lee was that inferior to your mate woffinden ?? cannot wait to hear make it quick and CLEAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Yawn with you, you send me to sleep chunky, also are you saying Lee was that inferior to your mate woffinden ?? cannot wait to hear make it quick and CLEAR. You have an opinion, end of. Please stop acting like you are the only one qualified to classify every rider in history. Let me explain this to you. Lee MAY have been more talented and possessed more potential than any other rider in history, The fact is that he wasted it. Temperament, reliability, consistency, achievement, and longevity are all factors in the way people are judged. Woffinden has Lee well beaten in every department. THAT is why he is better. Just saying, "He was better. End of" means nothing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, chunky said: You have an opinion, end of. Please stop acting like you are the only one qualified to classify every rider in history. Let me explain this to you. Lee MAY have been more talented and possessed more potential than any other rider in history, The fact is that he wasted it. Temperament, reliability, consistency, achievement, and longevity are all factors in the way people are judged. Woffinden has Lee well beaten in every department. THAT is why he is better. Just saying, "He was better. End of" means nothing... Woh don't lose your rattle mate don't cry Chunky, only an OPINION Chunky you are no more Qualified than me yet you believe you are take a chill pill.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: Woh don't lose your rattle mate don't cry Chunky, only an OPINION Chunky you are no more Qualified than me yet you believe you are take a chill pill.!!! I am giving you a detailed explanation as to why I feel Woffinden is better. You just state that Lee is with nothing to back it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, chunky said: I am giving you a detailed explanation as to why I feel Woffinden is better. You just state that Lee is with nothing to back it up... Lee never rode in a series and if he had he would of lapped it up it is easier.Twenty races Lee v Woffinden at There peak only one winner for me please tell me why Woffinden( who never qualified for a series is the bees knees!!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 It's all conjecture... Lee was not THAT superior to Collins, Olsen, Mauger etc. IT IS NOT EASIER!!! If it really is, THEN IT IS EASIER FOR EVERYONE!!! WHATEVER THE FORMAT, EVERYONE IS EQUAL!!! Having said that, the old system was very unequal, as all the riders competed in a different number of meetings in their quest to become World Champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Lee never rode in a series and if he had he would of lapped it up it is easier.Twenty races Lee v Woffinden at There peak only one winner for me please tell me why Woffinden( who never qualified for a series is the bees knees!!!!!) How can you say Tai never qualified ? He did, just the same as Briggo did by winning the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) Woffy is miles ahead of Lee only a idiot would think otherwise .. Edited August 10, 2019 by orion 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Yawn with you, you send me to sleep chunky, also are you saying Lee was that inferior to your mate woffinden ?? cannot wait to hear make it quick and CLEAR. Lee was massively inferior to Woffinden. MASSIVELY. Total nut job who threw away all that potential. There's no opinion involved, we're discussing facts. Lee threw it all away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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