Phlipphlopp Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 When is this carnage and waste of time going to stop ? We have riders moving an inch and red lights. Riders making perfect starts and red lights. Isnt it time to stop this rubbish , and go back to red light for tape touching only (apart from 1st bend incidents). If some want to jump let them , the exclusion for touching is on them. Its really grinding my arse now to the point its hardly worth watching. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Phlipphlopp said: When is this carnage and waste of time going to stop ? We have riders moving an inch and red lights. Riders making perfect starts and red lights. Isnt it time to stop this rubbish , and go back to red light for tape touching only (apart from 1st bend incidents). If some want to jump let them , the exclusion for touching is on them. Its really grinding my arse now to the point its hardly worth watching. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I dont mind the reruns its the 4 pit helpers who come running on the track that kills it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, geoff100 said: I dont mind the reruns its the 4 pit helpers who come running on the track that kills it . Agreed. They should not allow mechanics onto the track. If riders want to make adjustments they should return to the pits under a 60-seconds time allowance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leicester Lion said: Agreed. They should not allow mechanics onto the track. If riders want to make adjustments they should return to the pits under a 60-seconds time allowance. No adjustments at all.. The bike you started on is the bike that you restart on... All round in one go, back to the start, no pit gates open.. No need for more fuel as hardly used any.. And to stop moving at the start? Hide the magnets on the tapes so all riders need to look at the tapes only, meaning no distractions by riders moving either side.. And if you move you are out, no warning, just like in Athletics, out... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Phlipphlopp said: When is this carnage and waste of time going to stop ? We have riders moving an inch and red lights. Riders making perfect starts and red lights. Isnt it time to stop this rubbish , and go back to red light for tape touching only (apart from 1st bend incidents). If some want to jump let them , the exclusion for touching is on them. Its really grinding my arse now to the point its hardly worth watching. Totally agree.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 10 hours ago, mikebv said: No adjustments at all.. The bike you started on is the bike that you restart on... All round in one go, back to the start, no pit gates open.. No need for more fuel as hardly used any.. And to stop moving at the start? Hide the magnets on the tapes so all riders need to look at the tapes only, meaning no distractions by riders moving either side.. And if you move you are out, no warning, just like in Athletics, out... Totally agree with hiding the magnets . In my opinion this causes a lot of the restarts as soon as the riders see the magnet release the clutch goes making it look a lot of the time like they ve moved early. I ve got nothing against this as the magnet s are connected to the tapes but if it's going to cut down on the amount of false starts let's hide them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Leicester Lion said: Agreed. They should not allow mechanics onto the track. If riders want to make adjustments they should return to the pits under a 60-seconds time allowance. The bikes should be under parc ferme conditions as soon as the pit gate goes down and not allowed to be touched until the chequered flag is waved and the race is over , the referees and clerks' of the course should be a lot stricter they're the ones who've allowed this situation to develop and they're the ones who can stop it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Phlipphlopp said: When is this carnage and waste of time going to stop ? We have riders moving an inch and red lights. Riders making perfect starts and red lights. Isnt it time to stop this rubbish , and go back to red light for tape touching only (apart from 1st bend incidents). If some want to jump let them , the exclusion for touching is on them. Its really grinding my arse now to the point its hardly worth watching. Totally agree and been saying this for ages. Was on twitter and I know Chris Louis and Todd Wiltshire agree. It needs to be brought up in some High End meeting and discussed between FIM and riders to sort it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 It seemed as if there was an unusual amount of false starts at Togliatti. Probably reflects how rubbish the track was - gating was all important as we saw. Even Zmarzlick, who was the best rider over the 2 nights, "missed" the gate when needed and could do nothing about it, Emil and Laguta were away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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